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16v w/ turbo
There are those who will save their dollars and just drop the car off at a
shop for a 1.8T conversion, that's another option, not one I'd be able to
do, but I'm sure it's been done many times. The two problems there being
the money part (but going fast will cost money no matter how you do it) and
the real problem is finding a shop that's not going to do a hack job on it.
The plus side of that is you could take it to any VW shop and they'd know
what it was (more or less) for diagnostics.
There's a book called "Maximium Boost" (by some publisher called Bentley,
LOL) that's suggested reading for those wanting turbo info. It covers a lot
of basics, and may not be a bad read for you anyway, since you are driving
a turbo'd car now!
Cathy
On 8:20 pm 01/03/07 " Jeff Toomasson " <area53@validpath.com> wrote:
> As Dan said earlier, Mike - search the Vortex for "junkyard turbo" or
> "$500 turbo". You can do it pretty decently if you pay attention. The
> only thing you might have trouble with from a cost standpoint is the
> manifold and DP which you don't appear to have the skills to do
> yourself....
>
> One thing I want to point out is that your CIS-E is terrible for
> forced induction on its own - possibly the worst of all the CIS
> setups. Check Peter Tong's threads about his CIS ventures.
>
> Regardless of what you decide to do, don't plead w/ Dan to spoon-feed
> you. Just READ. :)
>
> > So, let's consider putting turbo on the PL and running 10 psi.
> > What would need to be done internally, etc to make sure that the
> > engine would run with no problems and last a while. I don't want
> > to go big nor do I want to be replacing stuff because it can't
> > handle it.
> > Also, at this point, please don't think I'm planning on going out
> > and purchasing supplies and making this happen now. This is all
> > just speculation in order to help me understand what can be done
> > and decide which I way I eventually want to go. Thanks for the
> > info, Dan.
> > On 1/3/07, Dan Bubb <jdbubb@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> There are lots of ways you can go with a turbo.
> >> You can leave the engine internally stock, run limited boost, use
> >> your stock CIS and count on your stock knock sensor to prevent
> >> detonation from killing your engine. The boost would be pretty
> >> limited, but even 4-5 psi would make your Scirocco faster than
> >> your GTI. You can find some way to lower the CR, double head
> >> gaskets, 16V head on an 8V block, forged lower CR pistons, then
> >> run more boost simply because with the lower CR the engine will
> >> be less likely to detonate. Then you can start adding more
> >> sophisticated engine controls. MSD boost retard doesn't give you
> much control, but seems to work pretty well. Programmable engine
> >> management gives you as much control as you'll need but you need
> >> to know how to tune, and/or have the tools to tune it. Having
> >> better engine controls will let you run more boost. Adding things
> >> like intercoolers or water injection or running race
> >> gas/toluene/octane booster will all let you run more boost for a
> >> given engine specification.
> >> If you want big power you have to have an appropriate CR and the
> >> engine controls to go with it. If you want a little boost you can
> >> get away with the infamous Vortex "I turboed my engine for $500".
> >> Dan
> >> From: "Mike Smith" <smithma7@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:51 PM
> >> Subject: 16v w/ turbo
> >>
> >>
> >> > With all this talk of 16v heads and blocks and 8v varieties of
> >> > both in 3 or 4 different threads, I'm getting a little confused
> >> > trying to follow it all.
> >> >
> >> > Given:
> >> >
> >> > 1) I like 16v engines
> >> > 2) I really like the turbo on Bib
> >> > 3) I like the idea of Megasquirt (as well as Spark)
> >> > 4) I like thinking about bringing all 3 together somehow but am
> >> > clueless :).
> >> >
> >> > Given the above, what would be the optimum set-up for a 16v
> >> > turbo application in Red? (Is that a vague enough question?)
> >> > As far as type of performance: I'm not looking to really race
> >> > it or anything; just decent street performance while still
> >> > being able to tickle to butt dyno and wow passengers.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Mike
> >> > '86 red 16v: Red 5 (aka der Jahrtausendfeierfalke)
> >> > '05 Indigo Blue GTI 1.8T: Bib
> >> > "The world is my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum." - King
> >> > Crimson
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> >
> > --
> > Mike
> > '86 red 16v: Red 5 (aka der Jahrtausendfeierfalke)
> > '05 Indigo Blue GTI 1.8T: Bib
> > "The world is my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum." - King
> > Crimson
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