16v w/ turbo

[smithma7 at gmail.com (Mike Smith)]

Well, from what I've read, 10psi looks to be more than I want or need.
 I appreciated Derrick's response.  Pretty much what I was looking
for.  It seems that 5-7 is more what I'm looking for.  Considering
Derrick's list of what to do for 10, what about 5-7 on a PL?

Also, now that trans have come up, would my AGB hold up to 5-7psi?

On 1/3/07, Derrick floyd <tyrone27@gmail.com> wrote:
> yes you can run a 4K on a turbo car but it will have short gears and wheel
> spin like crazy in boost.  I ran a 4K with boost.  and it sucked gas and I
> had no useable power really until 5th gear and I could only do like 110 on
> it.
>
>
> On 1/3/07, Jeff Toomasson <area53@validpath.com> wrote:
> > As Dan said earlier, Mike - search the Vortex for "junkyard turbo" or
> "$500
> > turbo". You can do it pretty decently if you pay attention. The only thing
> you
> > might have trouble with from a cost standpoint is the manifold and DP
> which you
> > don't appear to have the skills to do yourself....
> >
> > One thing I want to point out is that your CIS-E is terrible for forced
> > induction on its own - possibly the worst of all the CIS setups. Check
> Peter
> > Tong's threads about his CIS ventures.
> >
> > Regardless of what you decide to do, don't plead w/ Dan to spoon-feed you.
> Just
> > READ.  :)
> >
> > > So, let's consider putting turbo on the PL and running 10 psi.  What
> would
> > > need to be done internally, etc to make sure that the engine would run
> with
> > > no problems and last a while.  I don't want to go big nor do I want to
> be
> > > replacing stuff because it can't handle it.
> > >
> > > Also, at this point, please don't think I'm planning on going out and
> > > purchasing supplies and making this happen now.  This is all just
> > >speculation in order to help me understand what can be done and decide
> which
> > >I way I eventually want to go.  Thanks for the info, Dan.
> > >
> > > On 1/3/07, Dan Bubb <jdbubb@verizon.net> wrote:
> > >> There are lots of ways you can go with a turbo.
> > >> You can leave the engine internally stock, run limited boost, use your
> > >> stock CIS and count on your stock knock sensor to prevent detonation
> from
> > >> killing your engine. The boost would be pretty limited, but even 4-5
> psi
> > >> would make your Scirocco faster than your GTI. You can find some way to
> > >> lower the CR, double head gaskets, 16V head on an 8V block, forged
> lower
> > >> CR pistons, then run more boost simply because with the lower CR the
> > >> engine will be less likely to detonate. Then you can start adding more
> > >> sophisticated engine controls. MSD boost retard doesn't give you much
> > >> control, but seems to work pretty well. Programmable engine management
> > >> gives you as much control as you'll need but you need to know how to
> tune,
> > >> and/or have the tools to tune it. Having better engine controls will
> let
> > >> you run more boost. Adding things like intercoolers or water injection
> or
> > >> running race gas/toluene/octane booster will all let you run more boost
> > >> for a given engine specification.
> > >>
> > >> If you want big power you have to have an appropriate CR and the engine
> > >> controls to go with it. If you want a little boost you can get away
> with
> > >> the infamous Vortex "I turboed my engine for $500". Dan
> > >>
> > >> From: "Mike Smith" < smithma7@gmail.com>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:51 PM
> > >> Subject: 16v w/ turbo
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > With all this talk of 16v heads and blocks and 8v varieties of both
> in 3
> > >> > or 4 different threads, I'm getting a little confused trying to
> follow
> > >> > it all.
> > >> >
> > >> > Given:
> > >> >
> > >> > 1) I like 16v engines
> > >> > 2) I really like the turbo on Bib
> > >> > 3) I like the idea of Megasquirt (as well as Spark)
> > >> > 4) I like thinking about bringing all 3 together somehow but am
> clueless
> > >> > :).
> > >> >
> > >> > Given the above, what would be the optimum set-up for a 16v turbo
> > >> > application in Red?  (Is that a vague enough question?)  As far as
> type
> > >> > of performance:  I'm not looking to really race it or anything; just
> > >> > decent street performance while still being able to tickle to butt
> dyno
> > >> > and wow passengers.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Mike
> > >> > '86 red 16v: Red 5 (aka der Jahrtausendfeierfalke)
> > >> > '05 Indigo Blue GTI 1.8T: Bib
> > >> > "The world is my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum." - King
> Crimson
> > >> >
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> > >
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> > > Mike
> > > '86 red 16v: Red 5 (aka der Jahrtausendfeierfalke)
> > > '05 Indigo Blue GTI 1.8T: Bib
> > > "The world is my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum." - King Crimson
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Mike
'86 red 16v: Red 5 (aka der Jahrtausendfeierfalke)
'05 Indigo Blue GTI 1.8T: Bib
"The world is my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum." - King Crimson