16v w/ turbo

[tyrone27 at gmail.com (Derrick floyd)]

yes you can run a 4K on a turbo car but it will have short gears and wheel
spin like crazy in boost.  I ran a 4K with boost.  and it sucked gas and I
had no useable power really until 5th gear and I could only do like 110 on
it.

On 1/3/07, Jeff Toomasson <area53@validpath.com> wrote:
>
> As Dan said earlier, Mike - search the Vortex for "junkyard turbo" or
> "$500
> turbo". You can do it pretty decently if you pay attention. The only thing
> you
> might have trouble with from a cost standpoint is the manifold and DP
> which you
> don't appear to have the skills to do yourself....
>
> One thing I want to point out is that your CIS-E is terrible for forced
> induction on its own - possibly the worst of all the CIS setups. Check
> Peter
> Tong's threads about his CIS ventures.
>
> Regardless of what you decide to do, don't plead w/ Dan to spoon-feed you.
> Just
> READ.  :)
>
> > So, let's consider putting turbo on the PL and running 10 psi.  What
> would
> > need to be done internally, etc to make sure that the engine would run
> with
> > no problems and last a while.  I don't want to go big nor do I want to
> be
> > replacing stuff because it can't handle it.
> >
> > Also, at this point, please don't think I'm planning on going out and
> > purchasing supplies and making this happen now.  This is all just
> >speculation in order to help me understand what can be done and decide
> which
> >I way I eventually want to go.  Thanks for the info, Dan.
> >
> > On 1/3/07, Dan Bubb <jdbubb@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> There are lots of ways you can go with a turbo.
> >> You can leave the engine internally stock, run limited boost, use your
> >> stock CIS and count on your stock knock sensor to prevent detonation
> from
> >> killing your engine. The boost would be pretty limited, but even 4-5
> psi
> >> would make your Scirocco faster than your GTI. You can find some way to
> >> lower the CR, double head gaskets, 16V head on an 8V block, forged
> lower
> >> CR pistons, then run more boost simply because with the lower CR the
> >> engine will be less likely to detonate. Then you can start adding more
> >> sophisticated engine controls. MSD boost retard doesn't give you much
> >> control, but seems to work pretty well. Programmable engine management
> >> gives you as much control as you'll need but you need to know how to
> tune,
> >> and/or have the tools to tune it. Having better engine controls will
> let
> >> you run more boost. Adding things like intercoolers or water injection
> or
> >> running race gas/toluene/octane booster will all let you run more boost
> >> for a given engine specification.
> >>
> >> If you want big power you have to have an appropriate CR and the engine
> >> controls to go with it. If you want a little boost you can get away
> with
> >> the infamous Vortex "I turboed my engine for $500". Dan
> >>
> >> From: "Mike Smith" <smithma7@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:51 PM
> >> Subject: 16v w/ turbo
> >>
> >>
> >> > With all this talk of 16v heads and blocks and 8v varieties of both
> in 3
> >> > or 4 different threads, I'm getting a little confused trying to
> follow
> >> > it all.
> >> >
> >> > Given:
> >> >
> >> > 1) I like 16v engines
> >> > 2) I really like the turbo on Bib
> >> > 3) I like the idea of Megasquirt (as well as Spark)
> >> > 4) I like thinking about bringing all 3 together somehow but am
> clueless
> >> > :).
> >> >
> >> > Given the above, what would be the optimum set-up for a 16v turbo
> >> > application in Red?  (Is that a vague enough question?)  As far as
> type
> >> > of performance:  I'm not looking to really race it or anything; just
> >> > decent street performance while still being able to tickle to butt
> dyno
> >> > and wow passengers.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Mike
> >> > '86 red 16v: Red 5 (aka der Jahrtausendfeierfalke)
> >> > '05 Indigo Blue GTI 1.8T: Bib
> >> > "The world is my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum." - King
> Crimson
> >> >
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> >
> > --
> > Mike
> > '86 red 16v: Red 5 (aka der Jahrtausendfeierfalke)
> > '05 Indigo Blue GTI 1.8T: Bib
> > "The world is my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum." - King Crimson
> >
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