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Actually I think they should give everyone a goddamn gun.  Free here
you go--all the fucking ammunition you want.  Let all the stupid
fuckers kill each other, I'll come out when the smoke clears.

I know some stringent form of gun control is coming.  We have already
had it.  When people follow the rules...  That's why I have to be
inconvienenced for half an hour when I buy a gun dammit.  No I don't
slap my woman, children, boyfriends, significant others around, I
don't believe I have mental problems.  I have never been convicted of
a felony, there's no history of mental illness in my family, and no I
am not a foriegn national.  They ask you this shit at least 10
different ways to see if you are going to slip up, but they are the
same friggin questions.  If I was a criminal do you think I am going
to honestly tell you?!?

Every gun should be pre-fired with a ballistic sample.  Every firearm
purchase should include at the very least a fingerprint, if not a DNA
sample I am not kidding.  Make people responsible.  If you don't have
a police report saying your shit was stolen and someone blows an old
lady away--or God forbid you have a little bastard that takes it to
school.  The parents should get LIFE without possibility of parole,
and be fucking sterilized to boot, so that they can't possibly piss in
the gene pool again.

And particularly dangerous weapons should have a title that gets
transfered like a car.  If you have a bolt action .22 you aren't going
to get many shots off before someone gets mad about the welts and
comes and kicks your ass.  I am talking about AR-15's and such.  I
have one I have no problem with that.  I intend to keep it forever.
There should be licencing for assault rifles.  Unless you can prove
you have been properly trained you go to school first before you can
buy.  That isn't unreasonable.  I wouldn't have a problem with that.

The Brady bill was stupid.  It prevented honest people from buying
scary looking assault rifles.  You could still buy it--the exact same
gun--if it didn't have a collapsable stock, or didn't have a bayonet
lug.  How many times has someone killed 30+ people with a bayonet on a
rifle?  That's real friggin smart.  It took NO weapons off the street.
 It didn't prevent the transfer of a "scary" weapon if it was
manufactured before the bill went into effect.  It actually PROMOTED a
community like our scirocco list, to buy and sell these weapons made
before a certain year with NO documentation.  When you buy a weapon
new there is extensive background checks.  I have four weapons I
bought new.  My name is in ALOT of databases.  I am fine with that.  I
am not a criminal.  When I get pulled over there's big red flashing
letters... "LICENCED for CONCEALED FIREARM"  I keep my hands in view
the officer keeps his hand on his gun.  I really have no problem with
that.  Life is good we are both VERY polite to each other.

If I sell any of my guns how is this tracked?  It simply isn't.
That's where it falls short.

There's a new gun bill in Congress.  They want to ban everything.  It
was in before this thing in Virginia.  Now that this has happened and
the media has made a frenzy of it I FEAR that it will pass with unjust
restrictions.  All of these laws are great... but it doesn't stop a
criminal with an illegal weapon.  Locks only keep honest people
honest--they say.  I could be the model citizen and conform to every
gun law, register all my weapons, and still snap.  No law is going to
keep people from doing that.

More disturbing than that... gun control is overshadowing the loss of
33 people.

I love the concept of Starship Troopers.  Citizens serve the state.
They earn the right to go to college, they earn the right to vote,
they earn the right to breed.  If we stop the stupid people from
breeding this will happen with less frequency.  GOD BLESS CHARLES
DARWIN.  He had part of it right anyway.

Just my .02

Oh yea I wish the Prime Minister of Australia would shut the fuck up.
He's trampled his people's rights leave ours alone thank you very
much.

Chris





On 4/17/07, Jean-Claude D?sinor <desinor@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>  Like it or not, eventually some form of gun control will happen.
>  I understand that US Citizens have a constitutional right to bear arms.
>  I understand also that someone can kill with a baseball bat or a
> hockey puck.
>  I am a Canadian, but we did lose a Canadian teacher in that mishap, so
> that gives me (some) qualification to speak my mind :-)
>  Given that, please consider the following:
>  - a baseball bat (or a shovel or a kitchen knife) requires some skill
> to be used for killing. Not a firearm, the primary purpose of a firearm
> is to kill. Even small kids can do it.
>  - since we register automobiles, there is no big technical challenge
> to register guns. (although some crooks made a bundle screwing up
> Canada's gun registry.)
>  So everyone has the right (constitutional or not) to own a car or a
> driver's license. Yet you have to learn to drive and pass an exam before
> you get a license, and your car is registered. What's the big hangup
> about requiring a license for a firearm and registering a gun?
>  Last September, in Montreal, a young man went berserk and went on a
> rampage. He had a legally registered firearm. He was known to have a
> violent web site and to have mental problems,  but that . The gun he
> used was a Beretta CX4. Splendid machine, see for yourself:
> <http://www.cx4storm.com/>
>  Why the heck is someone allowed to have such a weapon in a non-combat
> situation?
>  I do not know what weapon was involved in VT, but I bet if there were
> reasonable controls he would be at least limited in his ability to hurt
> so many people.  Unless of course some determined victims stormed him,
> but civilians faced with a powerful killing machine might not react like
> that.
>  Yes, you have the right to bear arms, but take some precautions. You
> do protect yourself for sex, no?
>
>    Jean-Claude
>    84 8v (step on the gas if it smells like danger!)
>
> fahrvergnugen@cox.net wrote:
> > ---- Patrick Bureau <patrick.bureau@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Look, its simple... Don't let NON US CITIZENS to buy arms...
> >>
> >> When I moved down from canda to usa the border patrol prevented me to bring
> >> in my shotgun (`16cal`) into the usa, 2 weeks later after getting my texas
> >> drivers license,
> >> bought 3 rifles and 2 handguns at a pawn store waing my Tx drivers licence
> >> only. I am not a "killer" but common, letting anyone and their dog allowed
> >> to buy any weapon they want when they want... Is dumb.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > No, it isnt.  Make it mandatory to have training of how to use the weapons, including a background check for a violent history, or for taking meds.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> The government need to tie their computer systems better still, it should be
> >> a trigger, your on medication, oh sorry no guns for you. Simple.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > The idea is simple, certainly, but the application is not simple at all.  The only way to do it is to invite the government into our privacy just a bit more.  Many are not willing to make that sacrifice, I am not yet at that point though.
> >
> >
> >> <the more I live in the usa the more I laughed at the HUGE holes of
> >> "reasonable thinking" that is missing from the government>
> >>
> >> yeah yeah burn me all you want :) I don't care, I already got my guns...lol
> >>
> >>
> >
> > No witches are here, so there will be no burning.  :-)  However, I would like to say that 'reasonable thinking' is a relative thing, like 'common sense'.  There is no way to agree on what that is, and even more to the point, to put that into -action-.
> >
> > My .02
> >
> > David
> >
>
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