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Air-powered car?



    I don't disagree that compressed air is an inefficient way of bottling energy if you look at it from that standpoint, but if you pay all the overhead costs up front, ie Compressor, Holding tank, Solar Panels, batteries, hoses, installation, I do think that it'll get you around far cheaper then gas would over time and with next to no emissions.  If you do it by commercial power and don't have solar panels then yes you'd be spending more.....  communism works in theory also.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Verboten1 
  To: raveracer77 
  Cc: haygood@myway.com ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org 
  Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 09:45 AM
  Subject: Re: Air-powered car?


  compressed air is one of the most expensive things in our manufacturing budget.
  very inefficient, wet, and oily, unless processed right.


  On 10/29/06, raveracer77 <raveracer77@yahoo.ca> wrote:

        The best way for this to become efficient is if we had a way to make our own electricity which there is.  There is no way to make our own oil so that's got to go.  A solar panel or two and a large compressor with a huge holding tank would be a great way to get to work and back. 

          Rave Racer
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    NEW!!  91 Jetta GLI 2.0L 16V
    '81 Scirocco Mk1 1.8L 8V Digifant 2

    '89 Jetta GTX 1.8L 16V
    '87 Audi 4000 Quattro
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    '72 Triumph GT6
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      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Brian Haygood
      To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
      Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 07:24 PM
      Subject: RE: Air-powered car? 



      I hate to be the anti-idea-police, but that is really stupid.  OK, so powering a small cart with a couple of large tanks would be fine if you really needed to cut down on the noise a lot or had some other specific constraint that prevented engines from being used, didn't feel like using electric, etc.  Those propane lift trucks are pretty darn quiet over smoothe ground, so I doubt his is all that much quieter.  The idea that it is somehow the wave of the future for engines in general is just dumb.  It's just an air driven motor - not an engine at all.  The air compressor is doing the work and I doubt any of us has an efficient air compressor on hand that can compare with a gas engine.  By the time you burn the coal (yes, about 50% of the US's electricity is made from coal) to make the electricity to use the compressor to put the air in the tank, it's pretty much a lost cause.  Consider how totally freaking hot an air compressor's high pressure line gets and you can tell there 
      is energy being let out of the system at a high rate.



      It's a lot like claiming that the car of the future is gravity powered.  Sure, it is zero emission if you don't count having to tow it to the top of the hill, and the tow truck probably has 5 times the emmissions of a Honduh anyway. 







       --- On Sat 10/28, Mtl-Marc < marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca > wrote:

      From: Mtl-Marc [mailto: marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca]

      To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org

      Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:02:50 -0400

      Subject: RE: Air-powered car?



      If only 87 psi available at your local air station, you could always carry aspare can of psi Boost.Marc> > >     I like it, where can I get a couple?  Does this mean at > the pumps I'll be able to get 87 psi, 89 psi and 91 psi airs?> >       Rave Racer> Currently:> NEW!!  91 Jetta GLI 2.0L 16V> '81 Scirocco Mk1 1.8L 8V Digifant 2> _______________________________________________Scirocco-l mailing listScirocco-l@scirocco.orghttp://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l

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