Like these? http://www.twcsurfandsport.com/twc/assets/product_images/PAOHIDGJGPBKGLCM.jpg Get it? Van? Shoes? I think I'm a little goofy-tired this morning. GP On 10/6/06, Verboten1 <verboten1@gmail.com> wrote: > IIRC, at least on my van, if teh shoes were not adjusted right, pedal feel > was garbage > > -- "Fatal mistakes rarely happen, but funny things often do"