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rocco still not starting-advice please?



In addition to what he said, check all those "little wires you need for
starting": to the starter, to the coil, to the fifth injector. They have a
way of working loose if you've been rumbling around under the hood. And
that's a great tip Nate, many of us have a voltmeter too I bet!
Cathy

On 11:32 pm 09/30/06 Nate Mellom <doubt@inwave.com> wrote:
> Is it not cranking at all, or cranking and not starting? I'd check
> the electrical portion of the ignition switch.  Sometimes the
> contacts go bad, and the car won't start.  Had it happen in my '84,
> sometime it would start, sometime it wouldn't.  I checked absolutely
> everything, someone on the list recommended the switch.  Swapped in a
> new one, and the problem disappeared.  There's a test procedure in
> the Bentley (I'm pretty sure, anyway), and in Poor Richards.  You
> might also want to make sure you put your spark plug wires back on in
> the correct order, if you installed them backwards, or even off one
> location, it won't start. While you're there, check the Hall sender
> connections at the distributor, again, a common failure that'll lead
> to a crank-but-no-start situation.  I had a bad Hall sender in my '81
> a while back, and it drove me nuts.  It'd give me a random start
> pattern, but it would also just die for no reason.  One way I used to
> check my Hall sender is sorta of weird, but I have a voltage guage
> installed.  When I turn the key, the needle will jump to about 10.5v,
> hold for a second, and then jump to 11.5v or so.  The delay is the
> Hall sender charging the coil.  When the sender wasn't activating,
> it'd just right to 11.5v, so I could predict when the car wouldn't
> start.  Eventually I connected the voltage guage oddity with the
> start/no start, and deduced back from there.
>
>
> ignacio forrester wrote:
> >  hey all,
> >
> >  i have an 85 scirocco i got this summer that i've been
> >  trying to get  up and running.  i'll try to make a
> >  long story short:  i had regrounded everything with
> >  thicker gauge wire, changed the starter, cap and
> >  rotor, and ignition coil.  i had spark and i know the
> >  motor wasn't seized up because i was able to crank it
> >  manually.  oiled up the cylinders for that eventual
> >  start but all it did was turn over at a regular speed.
> >   it would never start.
> >
> >  started checking for fuel issues.  fuel pump relay was
> >  good, transfer and main pumps were bad.  ordered those
> >  and swapped them in today.  now both pumps are buzzing
> >  and i hold my breath and turn the key.  nothing!
> >
> >  the only thing i've done while waiting for the pumps
> >  to arrive was unplug the ignition control unit box and
> >  meter the contacts.
> >  if before i was getting the car to turn over why is it
> >  doing nothing now when i turn the key?  the battery is
> >  charged.  i jumpstarted just in case.  thought for
> >  sure my problems would be solved after switching the
> >  pumps but it seems like i've taken 2 steps back now.
> >
> >  any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >  thanks.
> >
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