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MS diagram?

Set all the ignition advance values in the ignition table to one number, or at least the ones the engine is likely to run at while you check the timing at idle.
Since you have a non-advance timing light, I'd set all the values to 6 degrees (temporarily of course) since the flywheel has a mark there and check that the timing light is actually at that value.
Good to double check the mechanical positioning this way if you ask me. The sensor type you have should trigger when the center of the sensor lines up with the center of the desired trigger tooth, but I bet there's some variation.

On another note, are you running a WB-O2?
Dan

From: "Don Walter" <dswalterwi@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: MS diagram?


> Not with a timing light.  I just verified that it was potioend mechanically
> according to the TDC marks.  How would I verify it with a timing light?  Do
> I need a variable one?  I only have an old standard timing light.
> 
> On 7/25/06, Dan Bubb <jdbubb@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> IIRC TEC II needs the crank trigger set to a very specific position.
>> MS lets you select any tooth as the trigger and any degree offset from
>> that.
>> You can also run almost any trigger wheel configuration with MS, 4 teeth,
>> 36-1, 60-2, blah, blah, blah.
>> BTW, did you ever get a chance to verify that the TEC II ignition advance
>> matches the actual ignition advance?
>> Just curious because there's another guy with a high compression 16V that
>> isn't able to run much advance at higher engine speeds.
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> From: "Don Walter" <dswalterwi@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: MS diagram?
>>
>>
>> > Here is how mine is mounted.
>> > http://scirocco.dyn.dhs.org/vw/list/Don_Walter/TEC%202/DSC02431.JPG  I
>> had
>> > to cut 1/2" off the the two standoffs of the power steering bracket as
>> it
>> > was made for a car without power steering.  The crank pulley is drilled
>> > and
>> > tapped into the back of the stock pulley and does not impede access to
>> the
>> > 12 pt crank nut.
>> >
>> > Also I noticed that the 034 Motorsports places the sensor toward the
>> > bottom
>> > of the crank wheel.  I thought it was supposed to be around the 11(?)
>> > tooth
>> > before TDC like mine is or is that just for the TEC 2.
>> >
>> > Why do you need 16V pulleys?  Why won't the 8V pulleys work?
>> >
>> >
>> > On 7/25/06, Brian Spinney <vw_85roccoZ400@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Marc,
>> >>
>> >> Yeah they just came out with it back in May!  I was the first on their
>> >> order
>> >> list.  I have pictures of it installed on my car at home that I can
>> email
>> >> if
>> >> you would like to see them.
>> >>
>> >> However you may run into a few problems trying to run it on your 8v so
>> I
>> >> will give you a little heads up.
>> >>
>> >> 1. If you don't have power steering, you will need a power steering
>> >> bracket.
>> >> I can mod you up one if you don't have one for a few dollars.  (I had
>> to
>> >> do
>> >> this for my car). It uses the PS bracket for mounting.
>> >>
>> >> 2. You will need the 16v pulleys and lower timing gear like I said
>> >> before.
>> >> Or if you don't want to spend $125 on the gear and you have the pulley
>> I
>> >> can
>> >> make you a spacer for less than 1/2 the price of the gear.
>> >>
>> >> 3.  One last problem you will run into is with the trigger wheel on the
>> >> crank pulley you won't be able to get at the 19mm nut to turn the motor
>> >> over.  You could use the cam nut but that isn't recommended.  I am in
>> the
>> >> process of making a tool for there trigger wheel assembly.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> -Brian
>> >>
>> >> 85 Scirocco 8vT       01 Jetta 20vT       84 Rabbit GTI
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Mtl-Marc" <marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca>
>> >> To: "'Brian Spinney'" <vw_85roccoZ400@hotmail.com>; "'Org, Scirocco'"
>> >> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:18 PM
>> >> Subject: RE: MS diagram?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Thanks for the info, this is what I am looking for.
>> >> >
>> >> > I found it on their web site. <<http://tinyurl.com/jyp35>>
>> >> >
>> >> > Not that expensive if you figure that you have no leg work to do. Its
>> >> all
>> >> > there.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks again.
>> >> >
>> >> > Marc
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 034 efi sells a 16v trigger wheels setup.  All that would be
>> >> >> needed is the 16v crank pulley and bigger lower timing belt
>> >> >> gear.  It will run you $200 though.
>> >> >> -Brian
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 85 Scirocco 8vT       01 Jetta 20vT       84 Rabbit GTI
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Mtl-Marc" <marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca>
>> >> >> To: "'Org, Scirocco'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:08 PM
>> >> >> Subject: RE: MS diagram?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > --snip--
>> >> >> > Mr Bubb said:
>> >> >> >> ... hall sensor input and now that I think about it you ain't
>> >> >> >> using that anyway since you're going to be using a crank trigger.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > How do you install a crank trigger on a vw motor?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am building a stroker 8V motor, and after seeing Timbo's
>> >> >> demonstration
>> >> >> > at
>> >> >> > Cincy, I am sure this is a cool project for me to do. By
>> >> >> trade I am an
>> >> >> > electronic tech, so wiring, soldering, etc is just about
>> >> >> second nature to
>> >> >> > me
>> >> >> > :-)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Cheers.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Marc
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> > --
>> > Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
>> > 1986 8V Black Scirocco (Daily Driver)
>> > 1984 8V Audi 4000s (RIP 2/14/2006)
>> > 1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at
>> > http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939)
>> > 1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (Ben's Car)
>> > 1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
>> > 1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
>> > 1971 Karman Ghia (sold)
>> > 1969 Karman Ghia (sold)
>> > 1969 Beetle (sold)
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
> 1986 8V Black Scirocco (Daily Driver)
> 1984 8V Audi 4000s (RIP 2/14/2006)
> 1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at
> http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939)
> 1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (Ben's Car)
> 1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
> 1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
> 1971 Karman Ghia (sold)
> 1969 Karman Ghia (sold)
> 1969 Beetle (sold)
>