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What type refrigerant came on our cars? I too want my AC back





I did the same $33 Wal-Mart kit.  Quick easy and works.  ...and yes, it works in Texas as well as in PA.  



Brian







 --- On Thu 07/13, Peter < peter@thescirocco.com > wrote:

From: Peter [mailto: peter@thescirocco.com]

To: sukchew@cox.net, scirocco-l@scirocco.org

Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:34:43 -0400

Subject: RE: What type refrigerant came on our cars? I too want my AC back



Listen to Chuck...<br><br>Being in Texas, it has to be the acid test for any air-conditioning system.<br><br>I charged my drivable swap-car, a '90 Passat 2L16V, with the $33 R134 kit,<br>that Wal-Mart sells.<br>It comes with everything you need, and the large can of R-134, is a<br>sealer/conditioner.<br><br>I drove it through the summer without any problems.<br><br>If the white Fox wagon gets back on the road, I'll re-charge that with<br>R-134, too.<br><br>Peter-302.832.8989<br>http://thescirocco.com/<br><br>Please! Include the previous text in your reply...<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Chuck Blue [mailto:sukchew@cox.net] <br>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:09 PM<br>To: gforbess@attglobal.net; smithma7@gmail.com; neptunonc@yahoo.com;<br>scirocco-l@scirocco.org<br>Subject: Re: What type refrigerant came on our cars? I too want my AC back<br><br>Okay People.Here's the scoop on refrigerant substitutes for R-12<br>Frigc-FR-2 contains 39% of 124  59% 134a and 2% 
butane FreeZone  RB-276  19%<br>142b 79%134a<br>R-406a   55% HCFC-22   41% HCF142b<br>Autofrost  GHG-X4/  51% HCFC-22  28.5%HCFC124  16.5% HCFC 124b<br>  These are not well known substitutes for R-12 Freeze -12 is 20% 142b and<br>80% 134a People think and use it as a drop in refrigerant but it is<br>not.Special fittings are required.If you have to go to that much trouble to<br>change to a refridgerant that contains 80% R-134 why not go ahead and<br>convert to all R134a.<br>  I am not a AC man but I do work with AC freon recovery equipment and ask a<br>lot of questions from AC people.I have had people tell me that R134a does<br>not cool as well as R12 but that has not been my experience. I flushed and<br>changed to R134 and I can not tell any diffrence. This was done on a 90<br>Nissan pick up and I have not had any problems with any of the components.I<br>am not advocating this procedure. It was done as a cheap fix and I have been<br>using it for about 4 years with no 
problems.<br>  It all may blow up tomorrow but so far so good.It is not a daily driver so<br>that may be a factor.<br>     There are some other subs but these seem to be the main ones.<br>Good luck,<br><br>ole blue<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: <gforbess@attglobal.net><br>To: <smithma7@gmail.com>; <neptunonc@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org><br>Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:05 PM<br>Subject: Re: What type refrigerant came on our cars? I too want my AC back<br><br><br>Freeze 12 is what was used to replace the R12 in our Mercedes after some<br>a/c work about 3-4 years ago.  I've had zero problems and the efficiency<br>seems to be even better than the original.  No seal replacement or purging<br>was required.   http://freeze-12.com/<br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------<br>mail2web - Check your email from the web at<br>http://mail2web.com/ .<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Scirocco-l 
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