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my mk1 won't start
Pull the starter. With it secured on a bench or on the ground short the 2 terminals. The solenoid MIGHT be frozen.
If it runs, then don't run it for too long.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nate Lowe [mailto:nlowe79@gmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:20 PM
>To: peter@thescirocco.com
>Cc: 'Scirocco List'
>Subject: Re: Re: my mk1 won't start
>
>Ok, I'm back in town and monkeyed with the car last night some. I cleaned up
>the connectors to the solenoid and cleaned up all my grounds (even though
>they didn't look like they needed it). I tried to get to the connection by
>the firewall, but the connector wouldn't come apart and it was getting dark
>so I skipped it for now. I also can't get any measurements while starting
>since I'm going solo on this.
>
>I havn't had the car not start since then (tried it a few times), but
>sometimes I get a half second pause where the lights are on but nothing
>happens before it starts to crank. So I think the next step is to replace
>that connector Peter mentioned. Is there any reason to keep that plug there
>rather than just doing a permanent connection?
>
>
>On 7/7/06, Peter <peter@thescirocco.com> wrote:
>>
>> How much power do you have at the solenoid, when you try to start it?
>>
>> Check the solenoid wire connection right by the firewall...
>> It's a spade terminal connection, that usually corrodes, it can be cut out
>> of the way, and connected back together with a butt connector. Just follow
>> the wire from the solenoid, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
>> It could also be the ignition switch, or starter...
>>
>>
>> Peter-302.832.8989
>> http://thescirocco.com/
>>
>> Please! Include the previous text in your reply...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nate Lowe [mailto:nlowe79@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:34 PM
>> To: julie@menloparkrandd.com
>> Cc: Scirocco List
>> Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: my mk1 won't start
>>
>> I plan on doing that first since I'm really hoping that's all it is. I'll
>> probably just clean and crimp all the connections to the starter and
>> solenoid to be sure I didn't miss anything.
>>
>> To address your suggestions in case that doesn't work though.
>> I'll check voltages at all the wires running to the solenoid and the
>> starter. I'm assuming the fat one direct to the starter from the pos
>> battery
>> terminal should be 12V (obviously) and the others should be what? The
>> Bentley says 7V for terminal 50, I'm assuming that's the quick connect on
>> the solenoid. If cleaning the connections doesn't work I'll check the
>> voltages and report back.
>> Also, is
>> this<
>> http://www.germanautoparts.com/Volkswagen/Scirocco/EngineElectrical/197
>> /1>the
>> permanent magnet starter you're reccommending? I'm sure it's nice, but for
>> $142.22+shipping I'll definately try and rule out wiring first ;)
>>
>> I'm going to be away for the rest of the weekend and can't keep working on
>> the car, but at least I know a couple ways to get it started and get me to
>> work on Monday. I'll clean things up and check voltages if necessary then
>> and report back. Thanks for all the help!
>> Nate
>>
>> On 7/6/06, julie@menloparkrandd.com <julie@menloparkrandd.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dan wrote the blow:
>> >
>> > Ohh, ohhh. Try this. I've done it my self the night before the trip to
>> > Cincy.
>> >
>> >
>> > >To be just a little more clear there is a ~1/8" diameter red wire
>> > >that
>> > has a
>> > >quick connnect spade lug on the end of the starter solenoid. This is
>> > >the wire that goes to the starter position of the ignition switch.
>> > >i.e. it provides the current to pull in the solenoid and power the
>> starter motor.
>> > >Pull the quick connect off of the solenoid, crimp it just a bit with
>> > >a
>> > pair
>> > >of pliers and reinstall on the solenoid.
>> > >Worked for me 7 years ago.
>> > >Dan
>> > >
>> > >From: <julie@menloparkrandd.com>
>> > >Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:31 PM
>> > >Subject: Re: my mk1 won't start
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> There is a heavy gauge wire on a slip on spade. Short this to the
>> > >> cable
>> > of
>> > >> the battery connector.
>> > >> Umm. Make sure the tranny is in neutral ok?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>-----Original Message-----
>> > >>>From: Nate Lowe [mailto:nlowe79@gmail.com]
>> > >>>Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2006 06:47 PM
>> > >>>To: 'Scirocco List'
>> > >>>Subject: my mk1 won't start
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Help!
>> > >>>My car won't start under its own power. When I turn the key to the
>> > start
>> > >>>position, all the lights come on nice and bright and the voltmeter
>> > reads
>> > >>>12V, nothing else happens. No clicks, no starter spinning, nothing.
>> > >>>I
>> > got
>> > >>>it
>> > >>>to start at work by getting a couple guys to push my and then
>> > >>>dumping
>> > the
>> > >>>clutch. It ran fine after that, but as soon as I shut it off at my
>> > >>>apartment the same thing happened when I tried to start it again.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>I did some searching in my repair manuals, and it looks like it's
>> > either
>> > >>>the
>> > >>>solenoid, the ignition switch, or the wiring between the two. I'm
>> > supposed
>> > >>>to bridge starter terminals 30 and 50, but I'm not sure where
>> > >>>exactly those are.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Any other ideas for things to check if this doesn't work are also
>> > welcome.
>> > >>>TIA
>> > >>>Nate
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