Shine rear swaybar dimension & metallurgical advice needed + (ATTN: Ron P.

[dswalterwi at gmail.com (Don Walter)]

Here are pictures of the Ron and Ben's Rear Axle Bar.  Hope they are good as
I had to Jack my car way up to get them.  You may see some torsional effect
of the bar from being jack up from one side.  Hope this helps everyone.

http://scirocco.dyn.dhs.org/vw/list/Don_Walter/RearAxle-Shrine/


On 8/5/06, Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> 2.5" U channel, 5/8" depth, 5/16" thick.
>
> Can't upload to my corner of Al's space...so here's what I had written:
>
> -qty. (4) 3/8-16 bolts, 1" long, with nuts, washers, lockwashers, all SAE
> Grade 8 (forgive us for
> not using Metric-sized fasteners)
> -We drilled two 3/8" dia. holes in each end, 1" in from the end (therefore
> 39" apart), 0.75" in
> from the sides (therefore 1" apart, centered in the channel).
> -For protection, I like Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer (even though the
> metal was not rusty), then
> some Rustoleum Hammer Finish paint.  I chose gray.  You go nuts.
> -The bar was positioned as shown on the leading edge of the trailing arm,
> centered fore/aft and
> side/side. It was clamped in place with C-clamps and the hole locations in
> the bar were
> transferred to the trailing arm.
> -The material in the trailing arm is not as nasty as we'd been led to
> believe.  You can go through
> with the 3/8" drill without pilot drilling; however pilot drilling will
> increase accuracy as the
> 3/8" drill may want to wander a bit, even if the location has been
> centerpunched or centerdrilled.
>
> -We then bolted the rearmost  hole first, then the forwardmost, for each
> side.
> -Done.
>
> The cool thing about this bar is that it takes no welding or other
> fabricating, just hacksawing
> and drilling.  Ben and I wanted to make sure that anyone could build one
> of these, and we've met
> that goal.  Also, differing rates of torsional stiffness can be acheived
> simply by changing the
> spec of the bar...use a different size piece of channel.  We decided on
> the bolt pattern so that
> we could go to different sizes easily, and swap bars between our cars.
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
> --- Allyn <amalventano1@tds.net> wrote:
>
> > IIRC, it was either 2" or 2.5" 'u' channel.
> > Al
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark F. [mailto:mk1mark@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:59 PM
> > > To: Allyn
> > > Cc: Rick Kellner; scirocco list
> > > Subject: Re: Shine rear swaybar dimension & metallurgical
> > > advice needed + (ATTN: Ron P.)
> > >
> > > On 8/4/06, Allyn <amalventano1@tds.net> wrote:
> > > > Ron used a 'different' piece of steel for that task.
> > > > I don't think its on rons site.  I dug around the files
> > > locally (his site is on this system), and came up nill.
> > >
> > >
> > > I found one of Ron's posts on the subject in the archives,
> > > but the link to the pic no longer exists.  IIRC he used a
> > > piece of channel, right?  Ron, if you're around, got any
> > > pics/specs?  Did you ever get to directly compare it to a
> > > Shine bar on the track?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Mark.
> > > 75
> > > 82 - in search of stiff ass end
> > > 82 Caddy
> > > 93 Chevy/Kia 1/2 ton
> >
> >
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Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
1986 8V Black Scirocco (Daily Driver)
1984 8V Audi 4000s (RIP 2/14/2006)
1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939)
1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (Ben's Car)
1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
1971 Karman Ghia (sold)
1969 Karman Ghia (sold)
1969 Beetle (sold)