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transfer pump is the prepump and is in the gas tank. Look under the back
seat. There is an access point.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott" <gun5ling3r@yahoo.com>
To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:02 PM
Subject: RE: RE: starts and stalls


> I originally thought it was the fuel pump and did the following with
> inconclusive results:
> 1)Turning the key on doesn't make the pump run but after trying to
> start it I can hear it for a few second and I can hear it while it
> lopes along on starting fluid
> 2)I couldn't get any voltage at the pump with the key on although I
> didn't actually pull the connectors off to test.
> 3)Jumpering ports 4/6 on the relay didn't make the pump run.
> 4)For a couple of days before it died I noticed a high pitched humming
> or whining coming from the relay/fuse panel...I didn't know what it was
> at the time but I'm wondering if it was the relay.  Although if it were
> the relay wouldn't the pump run if I jumpered the terminals?  PS I
> didn't have spade connectors so I just shoved wire in the relay
> terminals.
> See what I mean about inconclusive results?  #1 doesn't really tell me
> anything, #2 and #3 make me think the pump is bad and #4 just confuses
> me.  I suppose I could run cables directly from the battery to the pump
> to be certain it works...How does that sound?
>
> I can't get the injectors out by hand and apparently need the 'special
> tool' to pull them and check flow rates.  I'm assuming/hoping that the
> 'cleaning' V-dub Folks performed makes that unnecessary....
>
> I'd hate to blow a wad of cash on a new pump and find out that's not
> it.   Errr...where and what is a transfer pump(!?).
>
> You guys rock!  Muchas Gracias for the help!
>
> -scott
>
> --- Eric S <scirocco@vintagewatercooleds.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Sounds more like a transfer pump failure to me.
> >
> > -- 
> > Eric
> > www.vintagewatercooleds.com
> >
> > 1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
> > 1988 Audi 90 Quattro
> > 1990 Corrado TDI
> > 1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)
> >
> > Denny Maula said:
> > > FUEL PUMP
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Utley [mailto:fahrvegnugen@cox.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:38 PM
> > > To: Denny Maula; Scott; Scirocco
> > > Subject: Re: RE: starts and stalls
> > >
> > >
> > > The 'Fuel Pressure'?  What do you mean?
> > >
> > >>
> > >> From: "Denny Maula" <DMaula@gordonrees.com>
> > >> Date: 2004/10/26 Tue PM 04:35:22 EDT
> > >> To: "Scott" <gun5ling3r@yahoo.com>,  "Scirocco"
> > >> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > >> Subject: RE: starts and stalls
> > >>
> > >> Definitely sounds like the FP needs to be replaced
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Scott [mailto:gun5ling3r@yahoo.com]
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:33 PM
> > >> To: Scirocco
> > >> Subject: starts and stalls
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi again campers,
> > >>
> > >> One day I was driving down the Highway and the car started to cut
> > out
> > >> or buck.  I managed to make it home but now my 85 8v starts and
> > runs
> > >> for about 2 seconds but won't idle.  Squirting starting fluid into
> > the
> > >
> > >> throttle body helps it stay going for a while so I'm thinking it's
> > a
> > >> fuel issue. Here's what I've checked: -I can't find any vacuum
> > leaks
> > >> -The fuel pump doesn't hum when I first turn on the key but does
> > while
> > >
> > >> it's running and for a second after it dies so I guess that checks
> > out
> > >
> > >> -It's got gas in the tank -I've changed the fuel filter -The plate
> > in
> > >> the fuel distributor moves freely and appears on center.
> > >>
> > >> I had taken it to a place to fix the, at the time, non-idling car.
> > >> (Here's a tip, DO NOT take your water cooled VW to V-dub Folks in
> > >> Irving, Tx). They had he car for 3weeks and only got it to idle
> > > somewhat
> > >> after a full tune up and 'ultrasonic injector cleaning'.  They
> > > strongly
> > >> suggested that I buy the weber carb kit and swap out the CIS
> > injection
> > >> which sounds fun but is kind of expensive...I suspected they
> > really
> > >> wanted me to do that b/c they didn't have a clue how to
> > troubleshoot
> > > CIS
> > >> systems.
> > >>
> > >> I'm at the point where I'm going to have to take it to the VW
> > >> dealership and spend the really big bucks if, for no other reason,
> > to
> > >> get the problem diagnosed properly and I wanted to know if the
> > list
> > >> had any suggestions before I gave up my kids college fund for an
> > 19 yr
> > >
> > >> old car (because I would in a heartbeat, you know).
> > >>
> > >> Thoughts/suggestions are welcome :-)
> > >>
> > >> TIA!
> > >> -scott
> > >>
> > >>
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