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california smog defeats our engine swap
Yes that was back in 96 or 97. The swap is complete smog wise for an RD
engine and that was all they cared about. I was only being honest when I
said the displacement was 2.0. I never said anything about the cam, or port
& polish.
What do you need to do to make your swap "smog complete"? Maybe try another
shop?
-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Toomasson
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 5:21 PM
To: 'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org'
Subject: Re: california smog defeats our engine swap
Admittedly though - that was more than two years ago (at least) and before
the implementation of the dyno and the recent crackdown. Your receipt of
leniency puts you in the minority I'm sure.
Can you tell I'm bitter?
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Ringham" <jrringha@adobe.com>
To: "'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: california smog defeats our engine swap
> I had to have my car smogged by the referee back when I did my swap.
> RD engine punched out to 2008 cc's ported & polished head, neuspeed
> 268 cam etc. They asked me what engine I swapped into the car. I told
> them it was
a
> 2 liter 8v from an 86 GTI. They looked it up in their book and said
> there was no 2 liter for an 86 GTI. I said it was originally a 1.8
> liter, but
had
> been bored and stroked so it was now a 2.0 liter. Their response...We
don't
> care about that, we'll go with a 1.8. Passed the visual and the
> sniffer
with
> ease. Now I have a sticker in the door jamb and can take it anywhere
> to be smogged.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Toomasson
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:23 PM
> To: bhonnold@pac-cap.com; 'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org'
> Subject: Re: california smog defeats our engine swap
>
>
> Don't you actually have to LIVE in the county in which you're
> registering the car?
>
> I actually had to deal with this f*cking mess myself today - went to a
> "recommended" local smog station for the SECOND time in the last
> couple of days. First time, the "recommended" smog tech was too busy
> to mees with
the
> tuning in case it didn't pass and told me to come back during the
> week. Well, I went back this afternoon only to find the garage manager
> on duty. F*ucking tough guy says, "do you know if there's an
> aftermarket cam in there? The idle seems kinda lumpy..."
> Smart-ass...even if it is only a g-grind...This raises his suspicions
> so he goes and looks up the vacuum
line
> diagram and notices that my ignition retard port on the distro is
> capped. "well, it just failed right there...". (*&$^%*&
>
> I've still got a couple of more-work-involved options, but it pisses
> me
off
> when they get all worked up over the visual part of it when there's no
doubt
> it'll pass the sniffer...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Honnold" <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>
> To: "'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:09 PM
> Subject: RE: california smog defeats our engine swap
>
>
> > Why did you have to go the referee in the first place?
> >
> > None of the CA smog monkeys I have ever been to would have noticed
> > an RV motor instead of the stock JH. As for cis-e, most of them
> > wouldn't notice that either.
> >
> > If you can share with us why you have to go to the REF, maybe one of
> > the
> CA
> > peeps can figure out a work around.......like registering the car in
> > a county with NO smog?????
> >
> >
> > Brian Honnold
> > Director of Multifamily Acquisitions
> > Pacific Capital Investments
> > Phone: 916.773.3300
> > Fax: 916.773.3208
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Dave Ewing
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 3:25 PM
> > > To: Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org
> > > Subject: RE: california smog defeats our engine swap
> > >
> > > Grind off the V and stamp a D. If you know what it really is who
> > > cares. OR you could swap the pistons and head in/on to a RD block
> > > or even the block that is stock for that car. The engine code
> > > tells us what the entire engine is (including
> > > head) not just what block it is.
> > >
> > > So did you have a long conversation with this guy about the swap
> > > or did he figure it out for himself?
> > >
> > > Man I'm glad I don't have to do that!!
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Joe
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:21 PM
> > > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > Subject: california smog defeats our engine swap
> > >
> > >
> > > Well today my brother took his car to the smog ref to try and get
> > > it certified. It's an RV motor out of a '92 GTI using CIS-E. He
> > > was confident that the guy would accept it, but it was a no go. I
> > > was pretty sure that it would need to be a complete swap (harness
> > > and all from donor).
> > >
> > > If it was an RD block he would have been fine because then we
> > > could have called it a complete swap from an 86-88 GTI/GLI.
> > > However, it's an RV. It's sad because it's pretty much the same
> > > engine from what I can tell.
> > >
> > > They were giving him crap about the electronic ignition, saying it
> > > should have had a vacuum advance distributor. But wouldn't any
> > > high compression motor be equipped with a knock sensor and
> > > consequently an electronic advance distributor?
> > >
> > > In any case, we have the car running with CIS-E so it's just a
> > > matter of finding an engine that will be legal in it. We do have
> > > a complete PL laying around, but who knows what that would amount
> > > to in terms of not using the power steering pump, exhaust, etc.
> > > This really sucks because it took way too long to get this thing
> > > going.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > >
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