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california smog defeats our engine swap



You bet your a$$ it helps me if all I need is a PO box in Cameron Park or
Placerville...  :)

Hell - it would give me an excuse to hit Tahoe!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Fry" <rocco16@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Jeff Toomasson" <area53@validpath.com>; <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>;
"'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: california smog defeats our engine swap


> Jeff,
> Apparently you do not have to live in the county of record for your car.
> Lots of guys who live here in San Diego have a post office box in Pine
> Valley or Julian (where no smog is required) just so they can avoid the
smog
> checks.  Even though it's all San Diego COUNTY.   This may not help you...
> Larry
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Toomasson" <area53@validpath.com>
> To: <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>; "'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org'"
> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: california smog defeats our engine swap
>
>
> > Don't you actually have to LIVE in the county in which you're
registering
> > the car?
> >
> > I actually had to deal with this f*cking mess myself today - went to a
> > "recommended" local smog station for the SECOND time in the last couple
of
> > days. First time, the "recommended" smog tech was too busy to mees with
> the
> > tuning in case it didn't pass and told me to come back during the week.
> > Well, I went back this afternoon only to find the garage manager on
duty.
> > F*ucking tough guy says, "do you know if there's an aftermarket cam in
> > there? The idle seems kinda lumpy..." Smart-ass...even if it is only a
> > g-grind...This raises his suspicions so he goes and looks up the vacuum
> line
> > diagram and notices that my ignition retard port on the distro is
capped.
> > "well, it just failed right there...". (*&$^%*&
> >
> > I've still got a couple of more-work-involved options, but it pisses me
> off
> > when they get all worked up over the visual part of it when there's no
> doubt
> > it'll pass the sniffer...
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Brian Honnold" <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>
> > To: "'Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:09 PM
> > Subject: RE: california smog defeats our engine swap
> >
> >
> > > Why did you have to go the referee in the first place?
> > >
> > > None of the CA smog monkeys I have ever been to would have noticed an
RV
> > > motor instead of the stock JH.  As for cis-e, most of them wouldn't
> notice
> > > that either.
> > >
> > > If you can share with us why you have to go to the REF, maybe one of
the
> > CA
> > > peeps can figure out a work around.......like registering the car in a
> > > county with NO smog?????
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian Honnold
> > > Director of Multifamily Acquisitions
> > > Pacific Capital Investments
> > > Phone:  916.773.3300
> > > Fax:  916.773.3208
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > > > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Dave Ewing
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 3:25 PM
> > > > To: Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org
> > > > Subject: RE: california smog defeats our engine swap
> > > >
> > > > Grind off the V and stamp a D.  If you know what it really is
> > > > who cares.  OR you could swap the pistons and head in/on to a
> > > > RD block or even the block that is stock for that car.  The
> > > > engine code tells us what the entire engine is (including
> > > > head) not just what block it is.
> > > >
> > > > So did you have a long conversation with this guy about the
> > > > swap or did he figure it out for himself?
> > > >
> > > > Man I'm glad I don't have to do that!!
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > > > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Joe
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:21 PM
> > > > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > Subject: california smog defeats our engine swap
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well today my brother took his car to the smog ref to try and
> > > > get it certified.  It's an RV motor out of a '92 GTI using
> > > > CIS-E.  He was confident that the guy would accept it, but it
> > > > was a no go.  I was pretty sure that it would need to be a
> > > > complete swap (harness and all from donor).
> > > >
> > > > If it was an RD block he would have been fine because then we
> > > > could have called it a complete swap from an 86-88 GTI/GLI.
> > > > However, it's an RV.  It's sad because it's pretty much the
> > > > same engine from what I can tell.
> > > >
> > > > They were giving him crap about the electronic ignition,
> > > > saying it should have had a vacuum advance distributor.  But
> > > > wouldn't any high compression motor be equipped with a knock
> > > > sensor and consequently an electronic advance distributor?
> > > >
> > > > In any case, we have the car running with CIS-E so it's just
> > > > a matter of finding an engine that will be legal in it.  We
> > > > do have a complete PL laying around, but who knows what that
> > > > would amount to in terms of not using the power steering
> > > > pump, exhaust, etc.  This really sucks because it took way
> > > > too long to get this thing going.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > >
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