got shocks?

[tomc at satx.rr.com (tomc)]

Thanks Allyn,

I have poly bushings all around the car except for the axle bushings and
the rear swaybar bushings. Changing to poly on the rear swaybar is
somewhat easy, changing the axle bushings will suck because the mech,
that replaced my axle broke a bolt and welded the clamp to the chassis.
I'll need to cut it off and have a new stud welded in the chassis when I
replace the bushings.

I like the idea of really really stiff springs, more than a front sway
bar. Since this only sees the road to get back and forth to events, and
occasional stress relief, I can handle the stiffer spring rates but the
Boges won't.

Thanks,

TomC
'79 "The Project" Scirocco 
http://www.tom-c.com



On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 12:45, Allyn wrote:
> >I don't have a front sway bar, I've been purposely trying to stay away
> > from adding one, I kind of like a little bit more oversteer. I do have a
> > stock rear sway bar (stock from a '82 Wolfsburg Scirocco) with stock
> > bushings on it. Maybe, I'll try the BSI rear sway, and then go with real
> > race springs instead of the progressive H&R race springs before going to
> > the front sway bar.
> 
> ok, no front bar, that explains it. realize that you are already at the 
> point of lifting a rear wheel. once you hit that point, additional stiffness 
> in the rear at this point will do absolutely nothing towards reducing roll. 
> the only way to reduce body roll for your situation is either:
> A. really, really, really stiff springs up front (so stiff that having a 
> sway bar is useless). this is what the shine/bsi guys are counting on with 
> their setups. unfortunately you need higher damping along with those higher 
> spring rates, ultimately resulting in lower $$ in your wallet.
> B. bite the bullet and try a front bar. doesnt have to be insane. could be 
> just a cheesy factory bar.
> 
> now, for your 'preferred oversteer'. it is still possible to reduce roll 
> while keeping the oversteer action going. shift to poly rear upper strut 
> bushings and use firmer dampers back there. during the roll transition into 
> the corner you will get a more rapid loading of the outside rear, causing 
> the same effect, despite having the front bar installed. the front bar will 
> reduce body roll (as it is installed where most of the cars weight is), and 
> you may even get more oversteer once in steady cornering (at the moment you 
> have so much roll that you are only using a portion of your front tires 
> contact patch). even without more oversteer, you will still corner faster, 
> as more tire contact will give you better cornering traction.
> 
> hth even more :)
> Al
> 
> 
> hth
> Al