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--- Ben Harder <vwtype53@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Rick Kellner <rfkellner@snet.net> wrote:
>
> > Ben (and Ron), thanks for the reply and of course
> it is followed by more
> > questions.
> >
> > Did you end up using the 'relay board' or was VW's
> fuel pump circuit
> > sufficient?
>
> Yes, using the relay board... makes it easier to
> connect all inputs
> and does add extra protection with fuses and
> relays... I wired it in
> series with the factory fuel pump relay to maintain
> factory wiring
> as much as possible.
>
>
> > Do you think the injectors, at 28 lbs, are
> contributing to your idle
> > problem?
>
> Possibly. But I think it has more to do with the
> Schrick 260/276 cams.
> hehe...
>
> > What are you using for a throttle positioning
> sending unit or is one not
> > required?
>
> Automatic 16v Passat's (90-92) have a TPS. The
> entire throttle body can
> be adapted for use on the rocco 16v manifold.
>
> Ben
>
>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Harder [mailto:vwtype53@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 1:09 PM
> > To: Rick Kellner; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: RE: megasquirt users
> >
> >
> > --- Rick Kellner <rfkellner@snet.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Ben, I have been researching the MS option too
> and would like to hear
> > > more regarding your experiences. I don't want
> to jump into the MS
> > > forums on line and deluge them with questions
> especially when I don't
> > > have the kit. I did read the Mega Manual while
> I was on vacation and
> > > while it seems like a great system however, the
> learning curve and the
> > > initial start up can be lengthy.
> >
> > Yes, really the largest investment to the whole
> setup is time. Period.
> > I spent a few weekends just checking out all the
> wiring connections and
> > making
> > sure that fuel was properly routed and flowing.
> >
> > Lots of setup time initially = less agony later
> while attempting
> > startup/run.
> >
> >
> > > Some of my observations from reading the manual
> are:
> > > VW fuel pumps, relay, lines to the engine, etc
> are acceptable.
> > > VW temp sensors are also acceptable.
> > > The stock ignition (from CIS-E), knock sensor,
> etc are also
> > acceptable.
> > > RPM signal is easy to get too.
> >
> > All yes...
> >
> > > The stock VW fast idle circuit is acceptable.
> >
> > Like Ron said... idle is different with MS. I am
> still fine-tuning my
> > idle...
> >
> >
> > > The fuel rail on the 16V seems to be one of the
> largest expenses; no
> > one
> > > seems to have an adaptation from another VW
> product that works.
> > > Injectors fall next in line after the rail.
> >
> > Yes, I would have purchased the Ross rail, or Bahn
> Brenner one if I did
> > it all over again...
> > And injectors...I would start out with a set of
> used Digifant injectors
> > or
> > standard Bosch injectors (Saab, Volvo... all
> available at a junk yard..)
> > It's a cheap way to get up and running. Just make
> sure that the
> > injectors
> > are functioning properly of course!
> > Then, once you know the actual flow rate of
> injector you need, then make
> > the purchase for some good ones... (just the way
> I've been looking at
> > it)
> >
> >
> > > Now for some questions;
> > > Are you running a wide band O2?
> > > What did you do for a fuel rail; I have heard
> that a 1.8t lines up
> > > however it requires extensions?
> > > What did you use for injectors?
> >
> > I tried some Bosch injectors from a Saab 900 Turbo
> first (24lb I think)
> > Now using some from a Volvo 740 Turbo (28lb)
> >
> > > Do you wish you stayed with Motronic?
> >
> > Nope. never used motronic... from CIS-E to MS.
> >
> > I went to MS all because I wanted the challenge
> and fun of tuning my
> > car myself... my rocco is my fun car anyhow, so I
> just made it more of
> > a learning experience. ;)
> >
> >
> > > How many miles do you have on the system?
> >
> > Let's see... to Waterfest and back (10 hours each
> way)
> > and another 1000+ miles of "spirited" driving.
> > I'm taking the rocco to a track event in two weeks
> as well... :)
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks, Rick
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On
> Behalf Of Ben Harder
> > > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:28 PM
> > > To: Anthony Pelletier; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > Subject: [SPAM] Re: megasquirt users
> > >
> > > Hey Anthony,
> > >
> > > I do in fact have MS up and running on my
> mk1...
> > > with a 2.0 16v in fact. ;)
> > > (and with +compression, cams, etc...)
> > >
> > > The car runs great! Off idle that is. I just
> can't
> > > get the engine to idle below 1200. Largely due
> to my
> > > cams, but because MS can't handle the
> fluctuating
> > > vacuum signal I suppose. Anyhow, besides that
> issue
> > > to resolve it is quite nice.
> Sooooooooooooooooooo
> > > many hours of prep, install, and tuning so
> far...
> > >
> > > This install is definitely not a "bolt-in"
> setup.
> > > And cost... at first the idea of an
> *inexpensive*
> > > stand alone setup sounded great, but once you
> add in
> > > the fuel rail, injectors, lines/fittings,
> wiring,
> > > fpr, and sensors it adds up. Just a word of
> caution
> > > is all...
> > >
> > > I have yet to get to a dyno and tune the car...
> > > can't wait to really do some tuning.
> > >
> > > Later,
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
>
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