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Need some help with a cis 8v



90' is when the switch to digifart took place in the cabby's.  To a point I
wish it was 89', would prollie have made my life a bit easier and tuning
would definitly be more fun.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian McGarvey" <brianm@earendel.org>
To: "David Utley" <mr.utility@highstream.net>
Cc: "Calimus" <calimus@techography.net>; "Allyn" <amalventano@sc.rr.com>;
"Scirocco-l" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: Need some help with a cis 8v


> Dave;
>
> CIS-E versions do have an external FPR. its rated at 5 bar. I know because
> I was going to use one. The audi version is CIS has a very strange
> external FPR.
>
> Early CIS version do have an FPR is just on the output side of the fuel
> distributor, also rated at 5 bar +/-
>
> An 89 cabby I *believe* comes with Digifant so there should be electronic
> fuel injectors and an FPR on the end of the plastic fuel rail.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, David Utley wrote:
>
> > Digifant would have a fuel rail, but CIS will not.  Also, not to split
hairs
> > here, but CIS does not have a FPR per-se, they do have an accumulator,
that
> > will not be your problem unless it is near completely clogged with
> > something...  I think your trouble is either a grounding problem, or the
> > ECU...  I think it unlikely to be your fuel dist., unless one cylinder
is not
> > firing at all until, but that should be all the time, and not have
anything to
> > do with the fuel dist....
> >
> > William, if you get that book I mentioned, you will figure it out, I
guarantee
> > you...
> >
> > David Utley
> >
> > Quoting Calimus <calimus@techography.net>:
> >
> > > Hrm, I realized that I left something out.  The engine I'm refering to
> > > is/was a cis engine as well.  Basicly I transplanted the 8v from the
> > > wifes old 89' cabby to the new 89' cabby.
> > >
> > > The fpr pretty much is my next stop.  If it still acts up then, only
> > > things left I can think of are ecu, icm and the fuel pump.
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > Allyn wrote:
> > >
> > > > i would check the fuel pressure at the rail, or swap out the fpr. it
> > > > may not like the high volume from a cis pump (if you've still got
one
> > > > in there).
> > > > Al
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Calimus"
<calimus@techography.net>
> > > > To: "Scirocco-l" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:29 PM
> > > > Subject: Need some help with a cis 8v
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Ok, basic description of the problem is that the engine appears to
> > > >> have a miss at idle that stays noticable through the rpm range.
Also
> > > >> have to have the fuel mix very rich in order to keep it idling.
> > > >> Engine also will not idle when first start, you must keep it around
> > > >> 2k rpm untill the engine warms up a bit.
> > > >>
> > > >> Now, here are the things I've checked or replaced.
> > > >>
> > > >> plugs (replaced)
> > > >> plug wires (replaced)
> > > >> dizzy cap and rotor (replaced)
> > > >> injectors (replaced with used but from known running car)
> > > >> Timing is dead on balls (cam/crank)
> > > >> Compression check is good (160, 155, 162, 153)
> > > >> Getting spark to all plugs
> > > >>
> > > >> I think that covers it.  This engine was recently swapped in, using
> > > >> the current fuel setup.  It ran fine in the car it came out of.
The
> > > >> previous engine had the warm up issue as well, but not this missing
> > > >> BS.  Any ideas are welcome.  I may have forgotten to list some of
the
> > > >> things I did/checked but thats about the jist of it.  My current
> > > >> thought is that it might be something with the fuel distributor but
I
> > > >> thought I'd check with the list before I swap that out.  This is on
> > > >> my wifes 89' cabby BTW
> > > >>
> > > >> William S.
> > > >>
> > > >> -- 
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> > > >> 89' Cabriolet 8v (Silver bunneh) 71' Karmann Ghia (air sucker)
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