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Need some help with a cis 8v



Dave;

CIS-E versions do have an external FPR. its rated at 5 bar. I know because  
I was going to use one. The audi version is CIS has a very strange 
external FPR. 

Early CIS version do have an FPR is just on the output side of the fuel 
distributor, also rated at 5 bar +/-

An 89 cabby I *believe* comes with Digifant so there should be electronic 
fuel injectors and an FPR on the end of the plastic fuel rail.

Brian



On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, David Utley wrote:

> Digifant would have a fuel rail, but CIS will not.  Also, not to split hairs 
> here, but CIS does not have a FPR per-se, they do have an accumulator, that 
> will not be your problem unless it is near completely clogged with 
> something...  I think your trouble is either a grounding problem, or the 
> ECU...  I think it unlikely to be your fuel dist., unless one cylinder is not 
> firing at all until, but that should be all the time, and not have anything to 
> do with the fuel dist....  
> 
> William, if you get that book I mentioned, you will figure it out, I guarantee 
> you...
> 
> David Utley
> 
> Quoting Calimus <calimus@techography.net>:
> 
> > Hrm, I realized that I left something out.  The engine I'm refering to 
> > is/was a cis engine as well.  Basicly I transplanted the 8v from the 
> > wifes old 89' cabby to the new 89' cabby. 
> > 
> > The fpr pretty much is my next stop.  If it still acts up then, only 
> > things left I can think of are ecu, icm and the fuel pump.
> > 
> > William
> > 
> > Allyn wrote:
> > 
> > > i would check the fuel pressure at the rail, or swap out the fpr. it 
> > > may not like the high volume from a cis pump (if you've still got one 
> > > in there).
> > > Al
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Calimus" <calimus@techography.net>
> > > To: "Scirocco-l" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:29 PM
> > > Subject: Need some help with a cis 8v
> > >
> > >
> > >> Ok, basic description of the problem is that the engine appears to 
> > >> have a miss at idle that stays noticable through the rpm range.  Also 
> > >> have to have the fuel mix very rich in order to keep it idling.  
> > >> Engine also will not idle when first start, you must keep it around 
> > >> 2k rpm untill the engine warms up a bit.
> > >>
> > >> Now, here are the things I've checked or replaced.
> > >>
> > >> plugs (replaced)
> > >> plug wires (replaced)
> > >> dizzy cap and rotor (replaced)
> > >> injectors (replaced with used but from known running car)
> > >> Timing is dead on balls (cam/crank)
> > >> Compression check is good (160, 155, 162, 153)
> > >> Getting spark to all plugs
> > >>
> > >> I think that covers it.  This engine was recently swapped in, using 
> > >> the current fuel setup.  It ran fine in the car it came out of.  The 
> > >> previous engine had the warm up issue as well, but not this missing 
> > >> BS.  Any ideas are welcome.  I may have forgotten to list some of the 
> > >> things I did/checked but thats about the jist of it.  My current 
> > >> thought is that it might be something with the fuel distributor but I 
> > >> thought I'd check with the list before I swap that out.  This is on 
> > >> my wifes 89' cabby BTW
> > >>
> > >> William S.
> > >>
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> > >> 89' Cabriolet 8v (Silver bunneh) 71' Karmann Ghia (air sucker)
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