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WTB: 3a from Audi 80



The 3A is the same height motor as ours, unlike the ABA which is 15 or 16 mm 
taller...  Because of this, the crank and rods are different to make up for 
the lack of height...  Also, all years are with a forged crank, and ALL are 
made in germany, while the ABA are all made in Mexico...  I am biased, but I 
would rather have a german engine over a mexican one...  Way to many 
failures...

HTH

David Utley
Quoting Dumitru Hociung <greasemonkey@veryspeedy.net>:

> just curious, if you're going to rebuild it (as in with new pistons) why
> does it have to be a 3A? Afaik the 9A is for all intents and purposes
> identical, same block, crank, rods, squirters, etc. The oil pump and
> intermediate shaft might be different but aren't they otherwise
> interchangeable?
> 
> 
> On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:36:11 -0500 (CDT), "stetson"
> <tim@unrealexpectations.ath.cx> said:
> > Hey Mr.
> > 
> > I have JUST been down this road! The 3A block is in the shop right now to
> > get checked for tolerences.
> >
> > It took me 3 mo. to find one.
> > 
> > Look for 4 cyl. 80's and 90's (you probably already know this) and TELL
> > NO
> > ONE if you find one.
> > 
> > I know of 2 sources right now. Patrick said a friend of his that was
> > interested in a 3A project but went another way and had one (I was never
> > able to find out if he wanted to sell it or not) and there is the one I
> > was going to buy from Michigan until I found mine in a local boneyard for
> > much less.
> > It had 100K+ mi. on it and was EXPENSIVE (even though I was going to pay
> > it) at $395 for long block Maybe it'll be less for short block). Email me
> > direct if you want this guy's email. This guy had distributor AND knock
> > sensor harness to sell too but the cost was just under $500 w/o
> > shipping!!!
> > 
> > While I'm on the subject, why you need short block only? You going to run
> > w/o a knock sensor/distributor setup? Everything I've seen says you get
> > marginal gains for that and true performance is found w/ the knock
> > sensor harness and electronics.
> > Just a heads up.
> > 
> > If you DO go knock sensor route, get the 3A distributor as then you don't
> > need a cheater for a 8v/16v(knock sensor) VW distributor.
> > 
> > GAK motorsports sells the breather block off plate and so does Peter at
> > www.scirocco.com, but GAK sells them that are already milled to accept
> > the
> > fuel sending unit in it's stock place. Peter's are much cheaper but not
> > milled that way.
> > 
> > That's as much as I know right now but when the block gets back from the
> > machine shop I'll be able to give you a bit of a map as to the gotchas
> > that can happen as I'll (hopefully) be putting mine in before yours.
> > 
> > Now......need to know anything about 9A tranny gotchas?  ;^}
> > 
> > HTH,
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Life.  Don't talk to me about life.
> > - Marvin the Paranoid Anroid
> > 
> > On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Bryan Rankin wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > Lookin for a 3a, miles don't matter, looking for SHORT BLOCK ONLY.  I've
> > > called every yard in my yellow pages, and have had no luck, so i'm open
> to
> > > all offers.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > Bryan
> > > 81 Volkswagen Scirocco
> > >
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