[ELECTRICAL] Motronic

[txrocco at sbcglobal.net (ATS - Patrick Bureau)]

man... and they say I rework everything....lol

Jason you need to get of the drugs ya doing man... that fuze box does not
have enough connections fuses count on that box = 13 on a scirocco over 20
unless your going to drop systems left and right ya going to be short on
proper fuses or have too many items on a single fuse.

my 2 cents worth... I would just used the 16v fuse box.

ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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=>-----Original Message-----
=>From: Jason F. Snow [mailto:jasonfsnow@optonline.net]
=>Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 5:51 PM
=>To: 'ATS - Patrick Bureau'; jasonfsnow@optonline.net; 'Scirocco List'
=>Subject: RE: [ELECTRICAL] Motronic
=>
=>
=>Sorry I was kinda panicky when I wrote the original email.
=>
=>It's an 81 Scirocco
=>2.0 16v w/ 1.8 head 4k tranny (if those details help)
=>There are NO wires in the car--And I mean none.
=>No a/c
=>No p/s
=>It does have power brakes
=>I can hook up the lights, wipers/washers, horn
=>I am going to wire the radiator fan direct with a switch inside the car.
=>The car has no interior, only front seats.
=>No dashboard, I will fabricate one after everything is hooked up and
=>working.
=>I will be using original light switch, hazard switch, and everything in
=>the column (ie. Wiper switch, turn signals switch, hi-beam switch)
=>I will be using a 16v 160 speedo I have the connectors that plug into
=>the speedo on each side, they have about 4 inches of wiring coming out
=>of them.
=>I also have neuspeed oil temp, oil pressure, & voltage gauges.
=>I am using this fuse box:
=>
=>http://www.centechwire.com/catalog/panels/pdp1b.shtml
=>
=>I have a digital camera, so I will get some detailed pics up of what I
=>have.
=>
=>So you see, I really am screwed..lol..
=>
=>
=>
=>-----Original Message-----
=>From: ATS - Patrick Bureau [mailto:txrocco@sbcglobal.net]
=>Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 4:30 PM
=>To: jasonfsnow@optonline.net; Scirocco List
=>Subject: RE: [ELECTRICAL] Motronic
=>
=>jason I am a little confused about what CAR, And engine you have, having
=>wiring is good, and if you are doing a re-wiring, only certain wires
=>needs
=>to be changed from cis-e to monotronic. now if oyu have a mKI  with a
=>16v
=>engine trying to go monottronic, then indeed you are up a creek, but
=>plenty
=>of paddles around to help.
=>
=>couple of questions needs answering
=>
=>1. what car mki mkii
=>2. what engine
=>3. is there ANY wiring in the car or you stripped it all out ?
=>4. what options does the car have (this will be importabnt for the minor
=>stuff.
=>
=>
=>ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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=>
=>=>-----Original Message-----
=>=>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
=>=>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Jason F. Snow
=>=>Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 9:19 AM
=>=>To: Scirocco List
=>=>Subject: [ELECTRICAL] Motronic
=>=>
=>=>
=>=>It's been 2 1/2 years now since I started my Scirocco project, and
=>it's
=>=>all come down to this.
=>=>
=>=>I don't have any idea what I'm doing with the wiring.
=>=>
=>=>What I have:
=>=>92 Passat Motronic Wiring Harness W/Computer
=>=>87 Scirocco Wiring harness
=>=>81 Scirocco Wiring Harness
=>=>81 Scirocco Fuse Box
=>=>87 Scirocco Fuse Box
=>=>New Fuse Box (Universal)
=>=>
=>=>All harnesses have been butchered pretty bad, so I my idea is this:
=>=>
=>=>Start with the new fuse box. Get all my lights, wipers, horn working.
=>=>
=>=>Take Motronic Computer Connector and eliminate what I don't need (not
=>=>like I know what that is)
=>=>
=>=>Size everything up. Make sure all wires are the length they need to
=>be.
=>=>The only way I can do this is to put the computer where I want it to
=>be.
=>=>Under glove box. And figure things out from there.
=>=>
=>=>Connect the wires.
=>=>
=>=>It's that simple! Actually it's not, I can figure out all the basics,
=>=>lights and stuff, but the ignition system is going to be impossible.
=>=>I've picked up the book several times and though "I can do this" but
=>=>seriously, I don't know.
=>=>
=>=>Can I blow anything up if I don't hook something up right?
=>=>
=>=>I've had a million offers of friends who will help me, but offers
=>never
=>=>pan out. I'll have to do it myself.
=>=>
=>=>The Computer:
=>=>How much power does it need?
=>=>I want to run a wire from the fuse box to give it power. And of course
=>=>it needs a ground.
=>=>
=>=>I figure I will do this one sensor and connector at a time.
=>=>
=>=>I need solid suggestions.
=>=>
=>=>Thanks,
=>=>
=>=>Jason F. Snow
=>=>Information Technology Consultant
=>=>Home:  (973)492-8456
=>=>Work:  (973)838-8511
=>=>Cell:  (973)277-6480
=>=>Email: jasonfsnow@optonline.net
=>=>
=>=>
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