CV Joints vs Axle assembly

[txrocco at sbcglobal.net (Patrick Bureau)]

Well if I had the time to mess with rebuilding my own cv joint I probably
would.

I always keep an old set of dead axles at the housse and I have been using
remans on the scirocco for years without a problems, but I have had one blow
on me (well split apart because the a-arm decided to take a walk one day -
ie broken frame) I simply grabbed an axle in the garage with my oreilly auto
parts bill, they ordered and provided me a new reman the same day.... 9
bolts later and about 30 mins, axle is on and car back on the road. Its all
about personal choice between changing bolt-on , and wanting to perform
surgery with assembly... personally I like the bolt-on idea.

but I understand Dave's point of view.

do what works for ya...


ATS - Patrick Bureau


->-----Original Message-----
->From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
->[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Dave Ewing
->Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:00 AM
->To: Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org
->Subject: RE: CV Joints vs Axle assembly
->
->
->Bingo, Cathy, it depends on what they start with and since most
->axles turned
->in are of the "shelled" variety I stay away from the remans.  I have done
->both.  I started with the remans and for the most part haven't had much
->trouble with them (other than the cheapness of the boots and such) but at
->the shops I've worked at it seems we were always trading those
->things in for
->new ones because they failed fairly regularly.  Most of the
->failures were on
->regularly driven cars but we would always give the customers (before
->installing remans, after the remans they were just replaced with other
->remans) the choice of reman or rebuild and we see very few rebuilds come
->back (new joints, same axle).  Since the inners rarely blow up the outers
->are the only part that usually needs to be replaced.  Just my opinion and
->experience.  I'd rather save the time of replacing them every so
->often if I
->don't have to whether they are free or not.
->
->Dave
->
->-----Original Message-----
->From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
->[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of C Boyko
->Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:08 AM
->To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
->Subject: RE: CV Joints vs Axle assembly
->
->
->I put a new remanufactered axle on the 16V several years ago,
->it's been drag
->raced on slicks from May to Oct for two seasons, twice a month at
->least, and
->no issues. FWIW, in a straight line application with a bit more than stock
->power, I haven't seen axles go on VWs. (Hondas change them like underwear
->and VW trannies are another story, I've seen many killed off (not
->ours), and
->we've toasted a few clutches.) There would be about 20 000 kms on the axle
->other than the straight line miles. But vigourous curvy stuff would be the
->telling tale (ie Anson!) . Adam (my son) uses remans on his "scraping the
->ground low" Jetta, and he kills them off regularily, the angle is too
->extreme. I think he'd toast brand new stuff too, so for his money, the
->lifetime guarantee is a good thing. I'd do the whole axle again,
->but maybe I
->got a good one, it may depend on the quality of the core they rebuilt for
->you. If you rebuild your own, this would be a known quantity.
->Cathy
->
->
->>From: "Dave Ewing" <MK1Scirocco16v@comcast.net>
->>To: "Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
->>Subject: RE: CV Joints vs Axle assembly
->>Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:48:28 -0800
->>
->>Guaranteed forever is nice but I hate breaking down in the first
->place and
->>having to go through all the stuff to get the axle replaced.  My opinion,
->>if
->>anyone cares, is to use cv joints.  You money is better spent and it will
->>probably last about as long as you own your vehicle.  And if your racing
->>you
->>need better than stock anyway!  The shafts don't usually go bad
->unless you
->>mess them up replacing the CV joint.  Also, since the outter joint is the
->>common one to go bad you don't even have to take the axle out to replace
->>it!
->>Easy as pie and lasts longer than the "rebuilt by the blind" shafts.
->>
->>Hope you don't plan on these axles for your twin, Al!
->>
->>Just my $.02!
->>
->>Dave
->>
->>-----Original Message-----
->>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
->>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Allyn
->>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 12:53 PM
->>To: Anson Clement; Ron Pieper; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
->>Subject: Re: CV Joints vs Axle assembly
->>
->>
->>they are even guaranteed for when you bring in some 34 year old
->spare from
->>dauns barn and say its the one that was under warranty.... under ansons
->>receipt of course...
->>:)
->>that one still has no play, btw :P
->>Al
->>
->>----- Original Message -----
->>From: "Anson Clement" <ansonivan@yahoo.com>
->>To: "Ron Pieper" <rapieper@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
->>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 3:23 PM
->>Subject: Re: CV Joints vs Axle assembly
->>
->>
->> > I'm running rebuilt axles from advance auto, I've had one
->fail in a year
->>and a half.... I think I'm probably the most abusive driver here
->so... yea
->>I
->>think they are ok. The big bonus about them is they are guaranteed
->>forever... if you don't mind changing them they are the way to go.
->> >
->> > Anson
->> >
->> > Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com> wrote:
->> > Yup, the assemblies are ready to bolt in. There are many stories of
->>these
->>remanufactured units
->> > failing very early, or even being bad when bought. Others
->will chime in
->>with what manufacturers
->> > to watch for.
->> >
->> > One thing I do know is that there's nothing better than a brand-new
->>Lobro
->>joint...
->> >
->> > Ron
->> >
->> > --- Jon Palm wrote:
->> > > Well I have that clunk clunk thing going on, and noticed the cv boot
->>is
->> > > about half gone. So I was pricing new cv's and there was
->complete axle
->> > > assemblies for only 10 bucks more. Does the assembly typically have
->>both
->> > > inner and outer cv's with it? If so, I'd just as soon get a whole
->>assembly
->> > > than dick with pulling and packing cv's, especially for
->just 10 bucks
->>more.
->> > > Please comment....
->> >
->> >
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