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Vibration = tranny?

Ok well lets look at it this way; you thought you had a bad part, so you 
replaced it with something inferior (I know first hand about reman axles, 
try 7 in 6 months and 2 were junk outta da box) then you still have a 
problem. Either you didnt diagnose the problem correctly or you found you 
had a bad cv boot and thought it to be the problem so you bought reman axles 
and then put them and you still have a problem. hmmmm, needs more diagnosis 
:)

And Toby, that is pretty cool that you noticed that they were put together 
wrong; however, I bet you 25$ USD that if you were to take that axle out now 
and inspect it you would find at LEAST one bad joint.

You see kids, reman axles are assembled by 6 yo kids in china. Therefore in 
china they dont see the need to case harden the races. This leads to 
extremely premature joint failure. Jsut ask anyone who has ever serviced a 
reman axle for a German car.



Chris DeLong
Fine Tuning
206.367.5503
www.finetuningperformance.com
Seattle, WA USA





>From: "Josh20V" <mkii@nycap.rr.com>
>To: "T. Reed" <treed2@u.washington.edu>
>CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: Re: Vibration = tranny?
>Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 00:59:16 -0400
>
>I fully understand they are not good parts. I only bought them to in a rush
>in hopes of finding the vibration being caused by the old axles (which
>seemed in pretty good shape still). I was trying to get this figured out
>prior to a trip to Montreal, and of course it was totally at the last
>minute! :D
>
>Josh Able
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "T. Reed" <treed2@u.washington.edu>
>To: "Josh20V" <mkii@nycap.rr.com>
>Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:52 AM
>Subject: Re: Vibration = tranny?
>
>
> > Josh,
> >
> > Just my 2 cents-- I bought a reman axle for my passenger side about 2-3
> > years ago. The first thing I noticed was that the inner joint didn't
> > wobble around like the old one did.. you had to force it. Long story
> > short the joint was put together the wrong way. Once I got the inner and
> > outer races aligned as described in the bentley everything was smooth 
>and
> > the joint has been fine ever since. I never tried driving it when it was
> > put together wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it would work to some
> > degree at least for a short distance.
> >
> > -Toby
> >
> > On Tue, 27 May 2003, Josh20V wrote:
> >
> > > yup, they are remans, kinda hard to get the real thing without waiting 
>a
>few
> > > days, and I needed them that day. But Im fairly certain that even 
>remans
> > > will last 2 miles. :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Josh Able
> > > www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
> > > Secure online checkout
> > > mkI Kamei Kits in STOCK!
> > > Zender Airdams!
> > > REVO TUNING REP.
> > > 87 Scirocco 1.8t 20v
> > > 83 Caddy
> > > 82 Caddy
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chris DeLong" <green536@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <amalventano@sc.rr.com>; <mkii@nycap.rr.com>;
><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:31 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Vibration = tranny?
> > >
> > >
> > > > you stated that you have *new* axles. does that mean you have reman 
>ax
>les?
> > > > If you are axles arent german or the joints arent german then that 
>it
>most
> > > > likely the culprit. remember kiddies, reman axles are BAAAAAADDD!!
> > > >
> > > > Although you could also have some tire separation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris DeLong
> > > > Fine Tuning
> > > > 206.367.5503
> > > > www.finetuningperformance.com
> > > > Seattle, WA USA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Allyn" <amalventano@sc.rr.com>
> > > > >To: "Josh20V" <mkii@nycap.rr.com>, <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: Vibration = tranny?
> > > > >Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:38:43 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >josh,
> > > > >metal in tranny = bad, but cant cause that kind of vibration (at
>least
> > > not
> > > > >without sound to go along with it).
> > > > >tires can be balanced, but still have 'hard spots', which only lead
>to
> > > > >vibration when the tire is actually under load. there are special
>badass
> > > > >balancers to deal with this:
> > > > >http://www.gsp9700.com/index.cfm
> > > > >Al
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Josh20V" <mkii@nycap.rr.com>
> > > > >To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > >Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 11:19 PM
> > > > >Subject: Vibration = tranny?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, well lets try this one out for size.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Drained the tranny fluid and discovered a lil' piece of a clamp
> > > sitting
> > > > >on
> > > > > > the drain plug...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > now, Iam fairly certain that chunks of metal in tranny = bad
>things...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, could this tie into the vibration I've been suffering?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lets recap this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vibration at speeds from 50-65mph or so. Already have new axles,
> > > checked
> > > > > > EVERYTHING else. Thought that Im also wondering about is a belt 
>in
>a
> > > > >tire,
> > > > > > but I haven't gotten a chance to switch tires, plus if it was a
>belt
> > > > > > shouldn't it shop up on the balancer?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The vibration is not noticeable (it seems) when accelerating, 
>but
> > > > >cruising
> > > > > > at 50-65 mph (isn't at the same speed 100% of the time, 
>sometimes
>at
> > > 50,
> > > > >but
> > > > > > not at 60, sometimes at 65 but not at 55) it does show up. If I
>put
> > > the
> > > > >car
> > > > > > in neutral the vibration stays but "might" not be as noticeable.
>But
> > > > >even
> > > > > > with the car in neutral the whatchamacallit shaft in the tranny
>still
> > > > > > spins..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Josh Able
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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