Help needed on electric issue (Light and wiper!)

[tofunit at yahoo.com (toFUNit@yahoo.com)]

Well got the piece now, but isn't 20$ for that little crappy plastic thing.
Cost me about 57$ (In CAN$). Gezz the dealer are expensive!

--- Brad Sterling <bgsterling@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Since you've ruled out the load reduction relay, I'd put money that it's
> your ignition switch.  Been there, done that, twice.  I'd bet you don't have
> an interior fan either.  I drove home holding the high beams, just like you.
> The trick to getting to the ignition switch is you need to get into your
> steering column.  From memory (it's been 1+ years), it's something like
> this:
> 
> *  Remove steering wheel
> *  Remove steering column covers (upper and lower)
> *  Disconnect turn signal and wiper stalk wires
> *  Remove stalks by removing long, screws in center ring
> *  Remove big, aluminum piece that holds ignition switch
> *  Remove ignition lock
> *  Pull out and replace crappy $20 plastic switch
> *  Put it all back together
> 
> It gets easier each time you do it.  The covers are the biggest pain, since
> I can't figure out how to get them in or out without some force.  I keep
> waiting to break the things.  You might want to check out your high beam
> switch too (the connections at the base stalk).  I burned mine out driving
> home holding it in "flash" mode.  Good luck.
> 
> - Brad
> '86.5 Volkswagen Scirocco 16v
> '76 International Scout II
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of toFUNit@yahoo.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 2:40 PM
> To: 'Ron Pieper'
> Cc: 'The list'
> Subject: RE: Help needed on electric issue (Light and wiper!)
> 
> Okay, what can I do to fix the ignition switch... So I can see if that
> will fix my headlight at the same time, if not I still have to figure
> out what is wrong for the light!
> 
> Not an easy task to work on the car outside when it's raining :)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Pieper [mailto:rapieper@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 2:36 PM
> To: toFUNit@yahoo.com
> Subject: RE: Help needed on electric issue (Light and wiper!)
> 
> It sounds like you may have a bad ignition switch.
> 
> Also, the two relays should be the same, the first three digits refer to
> the body style, so if the
> rest is the same, it could be the same part.
> 
> HTH, good work so far,
> 
> Ron
> --- toFUNit@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Okay here is the status... I found out that my fan inside wasn't
> working
> > when the wiper don't work... The problem is intermittent, sometime it
> > works, sometimes not... (The lights always not works for now), but I
> > found out that the relay was clicking sometime when I touch or push on
> > the key. Like if there is a contact that is not good... then I figured
> > out that when I push the wires under the key assembly the relay is
> > clicking and wiper, fan are working again.. But still not the lights
> :(
> > anyways I got one clue to check I'm going back to figure out if this
> is
> > a wire problem or anything around...
> >
> > I'll keep you all update of my status, but if you have anymore
> > suggestion that could help me more, go ahead... thanks.
> >
> > BTW, the relay in position #8 is PN is 171 937 503A, so I guess it's
> > okay but differe from 191 937 503!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Ron Pieper
> > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 7:25 AM
> > To: toFUNit@yahoo.com; 'Rick Alexander'; 'The list'
> > Subject: RE: Help needed on electric issue (Light and wiper!)
> >
> > --- toFUNit@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Or actually this could be my problem!!! If the relay always stay in
> > this
> > > state!!!!? Can you tell me how I could verify this? Which relay is
> it!
> >
> > Joel:  The load reduction relay is in position number 8, which places
> it
> > on the bottom row, second
> > from the left.
> >
> > Easiest way to diagnose is to remove it and fire up the car.  Do ANY
> > symptoms change?  If no, then
> > it's likely your problem.
> >
> > The load reduction relay, according to a quick glance at the Bentley,
> > controls headlights, front
> > and rear wipers, and rear defogger.  Maybe more; I haven't had my
> coffee
> > yet.  But yes, it's
> > looking more like your problem.
> >
> > Try swapping another in it's place...wonder if the horn relay would
> fit?
> > Should work in a pinch
> > for diagnosis...
> >
> > ETKA says the correct relay PN is 191 937 503.
> >
> > Let us know what you find.
> >
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