[TECH] Cis to CIS w/ Knock Box

[txrocco@sbcglobal.net (ATS - Patrick Bureau)]

Dan,

Are you telling me that on 16v rocco there is 2 throttle switches? one to
the knock box , and one to the ecu?
maybe I don't understand what you are explaining, maybe my english to french
is not as good as I though it was...

I don't recall seeing on the 3a complete engine 2 switches on the throttle
body of the audi.

Brian Wagner, you have the audi TB, I gave it to you integral me removing it
from the engine, could you check for me please if indeed it does, maybe I
can find something to trade back for the second switch assembly and save me
the time to find another (Pluuuuueeeeeaaaassseeeee).

Please..., explain further, I think I am missing a peice of the puzzle on my
conversion...


ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net


=>-----Original Message-----
=>From: Dan Bubb [mailto:jdbubb@ix.netcom.com]
=>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 1:47 PM
=>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau; _Scirocco Mailing List
=>Subject: Re: [TECH] Cis to CIS w/ Knock Box
=>
=>
=>Patrick:
=>Your current full throttle switch needs to stay connected as is.
=>It signals
=>the fuel computer you're at WOT.
=>For the KS ignition you need to have the throttle body that has
=>both a full
=>throttle switch and an idle switch off a car that originally had the KS
=>ignition.
=>It will have a connector with 3 wires. One is 12V, one goes to pin #8 and
=>one to pin #6.
=>As a matter of fact you will need to piggyback your current full throttle
=>switch (either mechanically or electrically via a relay) on top
=>of the full
=>throttle switch required for the KS ignition. The ignition WOT switch
=>provides 12V to the KS box at WOT. The fuel WOT switch grounds the pin on
=>the fuel box at WOT so you cannot use one switch to signal both fuel and
=>ignition of WOT unless you set up a relay.
=>Dan
=>
=>----- Original Message -----
=>From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
=>To: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>; "_Scirocco Mailing List"
=><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
=>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 2:28 PM
=>Subject: RE: [TECH] Cis to CIS w/ Knock Box
=>
=>
=>> thank you, one last question
=>>
=>> the knock box runs wires from pin # 8  to full throttle (Blue/Black) and
=>pin
=>> #6 closed throttle (white/blue), I will try to dig the info out of
=>Bentley,
=>> but on the 85 rocco the wires to the throttle switch are brown/red and
=>Grey
=>> anyone know which corresponds to which?
=>>
=>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
=>>
=>>
=>> =>-----Original Message-----
=>> =>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
=>> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Dan Bubb
=>> =>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:49 PM
=>> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau; _Scirocco Mailing List
=>> =>Subject: Re: [TECH] Cis to CIS w/ Knock Box
=>> =>
=>> =>
=>> =>You remove the hall sender wires from the Ignition Module and
=>"relocate"
=>> =>them to the knock box.
=>> =>The ignition control unit fires when it gets the signal.
=>> =>With the original distributor with it's mechanical and vacuum advance
=>the
=>> =>hall sender sends the signal at the right time.
=>> =>With the KS the knock box intercepts the signal from the hall
=>> =>sender, waits
=>> =>the appropriate amount of time (for correct advance) then sends the
=>signal
=>> =>to the ignition module.
=>> =>Dan
=>> =>http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l
=>>