16V Lifters ticking?

[MK1Scirocco16v at attbi.com (Dave Ewing)]

Sorry, thought he said cam timing.  Either way, it's not the lifters,
probably only pinging from advancing too much.  Sorry Ryan, I really thought
you said cam timing.  Hope I didn't cause you any unnecessary worry!!

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason" <jason@scirocco.org>
To: "Dave Ewing" <MK1Scirocco16v@attbi.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: 16V Lifters ticking?


> Wait -- valves tapping the pistons?!  All he did was change ignition
> timing, not cam timing!
>
> Changing ignition timing won't have any effect on cam timing!  Don't
> worry... no threat of valves contacting pistons there.
>
> Lifters and ignition timing shouldn't be related at all.  Are you sure
it's
> lifters?  It could be that you have advanced the ignition so far that it's
> firing before the intake valve closes completely (and/or before TDC) and
> you're hearing that detonation.  I'd do what you said - put it back to
> stock 6' - 8'  BDTC timing.  That shouldn't have any effect on lifters,
but
> if the noise stops, you probably were hearing detonation...
>
> Jason
>
>
> At 03:12 PM 6/19/2003, Dave Ewing wrote:
> >Uh, that wouldn't be clicking lifters, it would be valves tagging the
> >pistons.  I've seen this done on a car that came into the shop once and
all
> >we did is adjust the cam timing back a little with no adverse effects but
> >you definately pushing the envelope advancing that much!!
> >
> >Dave
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ryan H" <rhock99@epix.net>
> >To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:59 AM
> >Subject: 16V Lifters ticking?
> >
> >
> > > I over-advanced my ignition timing by a few degrees the other day, and
my
> >lifters started making a ticking noise when I start the car for a few
> >minutes.  Why would advancing the ignition timing make the lifters tick?
Or
> >is it completely unrelated?  I'm gonna set it back tonight to see if they
> >still tick, but I just wanted to get anyone's input first.  Thanks.
> > >
> > >
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