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Of course bondo will not protect the back side of steel, nothing can.  =
Not all body men seal bare steel before applying Bondo.  I worked with =
some very talented and respected body men (known and 'bumpers/painters") =
in years past and did not see any of them seal before applying bondo =
(most of them cringed at the thought of bondo and much preferred working =
with lead...these were real craftsmen)
I cannot argue with the 'better safe than sorry' philosophy, however!!!

Larry
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: brett cooke=20
  To: rocco16v@netzero.net ; Indiana_Red@hotmail.com ; =
scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 2:25 PM
  Subject: Re: semi OT - Lame bodywork question


  steel will rust back through bondo, especially if the other side is =
exposed=20
  to moisture. even body shops use a sealer when they do bondo work, =
might not=20
  be por-15 but they still seal it. besides, better safe then sorry =
right?
    hit



  So Sayeth The Hitman
  '88 "stripe" 16v scirocco
  '91 passat gl "the green hell"
  <http://www.techography.net:82/brettsgarage>




  >From: "L F" <rocco16v@netzero.net>
  >To: "brett cooke"=20
  =
><vwscir88@hotmail.com>,<Indiana_Red@hotmail.com>,<scirocco-l@scirocco.or=
g>
  >Subject: Re: semi OT - Lame bodywork question
  >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:46:24 -0800
  >
  >Why Por?  if you're going to bondo anyway?  Steel won't rust under =
the=20
  >Bondo....
  >
  >Larry
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: brett cooke
  >   To: Indiana_Red@hotmail.com ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
  >   Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:13 PM
  >   Subject: Re: semi OT - Lame bodywork question
  >
  >
  >   if you paint with por-15 first, let it dry, then sand it a lil' =
(just to
  >   scuff it up) you should be able to bondo right over it. i've done =
this
  >   before with no bondo adhesion problems. hth
  >     hit
  >
  >
  >
  >   So Sayeth The Hitman
  >   '88 "stripe" 16v scirocco
  >   '91 passat gl "the green hell"
  >   <http://www.techography.net:82/brettsgarage>
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >   >From: "Ken B" <Indiana_Red@hotmail.com>
  >   >To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
  >   >Subject: semi OT - Lame bodywork question
  >   >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:40:15 -0700
  >   >
  >   >As a rule, should filler (Bondo) go on bare metal only?  What if =
you=20
  >wanted
  >   >to rust proof a small section (Por 15) and fill over it a bit.   =
Taboo=20
  >?
  >   >or
  >   >OK?  Im thinking of the small holes at the lower corner of where =
my
  >   >windshield sits.
  >   >Thanks
  >   >Ken
  >   >1979 Scirocco 16V -  Almost done
  >   >81 Deisel P/U - Rescued from neglegent PO
  >   >VORTEX:  "Indiana Red"
  >   >
  >   >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Of course bondo will not protect the =
back side of=20
steel, nothing can.&nbsp; Not all body men seal bare steel before =
applying=20
Bondo.&nbsp; I worked with some very talented and respected body men =
(known and=20
'bumpers/painters") in years past and did not see any of them seal =
before=20
applying bondo (most of them cringed at the thought of bondo and much =
preferred=20
working with lead...these were real craftsmen)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I cannot argue with the 'better safe =
than sorry'=20
philosophy, however!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:vwscir88@hotmail.com"; =
title=3Dvwscir88@hotmail.com>brett=20
  cooke</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:rocco16v@netzero.net"=20
  title=3Drocco16v@netzero.net>rocco16v@netzero.net</A> ; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:Indiana_Red@hotmail.com"=20
  title=3DIndiana_Red@hotmail.com>Indiana_Red@hotmail.com</A> ; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org"=20
  title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 17, 2003 =
2:25=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: semi OT - Lame =
bodywork=20
  question</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>steel will rust back through bondo, especially if the =
other=20
  side is exposed <BR>to moisture. even body shops use a sealer when =
they do=20
  bondo work, might not <BR>be por-15 but they still seal it. besides, =
better=20
  safe then sorry right?<BR>&nbsp; hit<BR><BR><BR><BR>So Sayeth The=20
  Hitman<BR>'88 "stripe" 16v scirocco<BR>'91 passat gl "the green=20
  hell"<BR>&lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.techography.net:82/brettsgarage";>http://www.techograph=
y.net:82/brettsgarage</A>&gt;<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>&gt;From:=20
  "L F" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rocco16v@netzero.net";>rocco16v@netzero.net</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;=
To:=20
  "brett cooke" <BR>&gt;&lt;<A=20
  =
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  =
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R>&gt;Subject:=20
  Re: semi OT - Lame bodywork question<BR>&gt;Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 =
18:46:24=20
  -0800<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Why Por?&nbsp; if you're going to bondo =
anyway?&nbsp;=20
  Steel won't rust under the=20
  <BR>&gt;Bondo....<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Larry<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; ----- =
Original=20
  Message -----<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: brett =
cooke<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:Indiana_Red@hotmail.com";>Indiana_Red@hotmail.com</A> ; =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A><BR>&g=
t;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:13 PM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: =
Re: semi=20
  OT - Lame bodywork question<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; if you =
paint=20
  with por-15 first, let it dry, then sand it a lil' (just=20
  to<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; scuff it up) you should be able to bondo right =
over it.=20
  i've done this<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; before with no bondo adhesion =
problems.=20
  hth<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  hit<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; So Sayeth The=20
  Hitman<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; '88 "stripe" 16v =
scirocco<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; '91=20
  passat gl "the green hell"<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.techography.net:82/brettsgarage";>http://www.techograph=
y.net:82/brettsgarage</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>=
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;From: "Ken B" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:Indiana_Red@hotmail.com";>Indiana_Red@hotmail.com</A>&gt;<B=
R>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;To: &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A>&gt;<B=
R>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;Subject: semi OT - Lame bodywork question<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;Date:=20
  Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:40:15 -0700<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;As a rule, should filler (Bondo) go on bare metal only?&nbsp; What =
if you=20
  <BR>&gt;wanted<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;to rust proof a small section =
(Por 15)=20
  and fill over it a bit.&nbsp;&nbsp; Taboo =
<BR>&gt;?<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;or<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;OK?&nbsp; Im thinking of the small =
holes at the=20
  lower corner of where my<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;windshield=20
  sits.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;Thanks<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;Ken<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;1979 Scirocco 16V -&nbsp; Almost=20
  done<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;81 Deisel P/U - Rescued from neglegent=20
  PO<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;VORTEX:&nbsp; "Indiana =
Red"<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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