OT garage floor coatings

[nealtovsen@yahoo.com (Neal)]

I've been thinking of giving this a try:

http://www.racedeck.com/


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Behalf Of Anson Clement
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:11 PM
To: roclist@accessconsulting.ca; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: OT garage floor coatings


Bugger!
The house is a rental so I'm not willing to spend more than 40-50 on the
floor. I seriously doubt the landlord would spring for a contractor so I
guess I'll have to live without the epoxy. The floor realy is quite nice but
epoxy makes sweeping and spill clean-up such a joy. A major pro for painting
the floor would have been assured deposit-return, without the paint I'll
probably stain it.
Thanks for all the help
Anson


Sealer is a bitch.
If you want a top notch job you gotta get that stuff off. Only way I know of
I stated before, i.e. terrazzi grinder (800 lb six puck(corrumdum stones)
monster). there may be chemical strippers out there. But I cant speak from
experience. Shot blasting is very dusty, noisy, and possibly weakens the
concrete. Grinder is done in the wet. so have a shop vac handy else you'll
have a concrete driveway as well...
Maybye there's a rental unit (grinder) that's more manageable? and you will
need an angle grinder for the edges...
I know where you're comming from you want a quality job that will last a
long time, (I'd say 20 years or more in a home garage application) compared
to probably 3 years for concrete paint. Depending on your budget maybye you
could get a commercial contractor to do it for you. Maybye they'd be willing
to do just the grinding, from experience I'd say a two car garage would take
~3 hours to grind plus edges of course.
Jason Adams
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----- Original Message -----
From: Anson Clement
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: OT garage floor coatings
Thanks for all the input guy's, I just returned from the inner sanctuary
a.k.a garage. Sad news, the floor appears to have been treated with a
concrete sealer. From what I understand epoxy will not adhere to sealed
concrete unless it has been shot blasted and sometimes not even then.
Apparently acid etching will not touch sealer. Any bright ideas? I'm not
about to pay for shot blasting and an angle grinder would take several
years.... if my girlfriend let me live that long.
Anson
My Stepfather owns a company that applied floorcoatings used in ware houses,
and as a part time job when I was in university I helped on weekends.... So
I know what I'm talking about...
For high traffic areas we used a two part epoxy made by Tennant, 424 I
believe was the model designation, The second "part" was actually a powder
you mixed in for the abrasion resistance. It you want any non-skid areas
sprinkle some #0 sillica sand when applying the second coat (at the end)
else change rollers when moving back to the rest of the garage.
As for application, well that depends, is the floor currently painted? if it
is, remove it, we used a terrazzi grinder which used 6 corrundum stones to
chew the paint up and clean the concrete. This is not practicle for the home
user. Do your best, spend 90% of your time on prep work. a metal scraper and
paint remover for stubborn areas may work, If it's really stubborn leave it,
it must be bonded on good, after chipping,scraping, sanding, definately acid
wash, the stuff we used was Tennant 409 concrete cleaner but any muriatic or
hydrochloric acid will do. after acid wash (with mop), rinse with lots of
water. let dry a minimum of 6 hours or overnight (after you've squeegeed off
water), more if humid and or cold.
remember, prep, prep prep.
we took all the floors down to bare concrete for best bond, because we don't
mae any money on call backs. If you're going to paint over painted floor and
not prep rigorusly don't wasteyour money on epoxy, it won't stick... I know
jason.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anson Clement
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:46 PM
Subject: OT garage floor coatings
I'm going to be coating my garage floor in the next month, any
recomendations for what to use/not use and how to prep or apply?
Anson
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