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kinda OT rocco vs. rabbit
Holy crap Patrick, you're confusing even me (and I have my French/Canadian
filter activated)!
Jacob, I'll try to shed some light on your questions...
> I have noticed that many scirocco owners have or had rabbits or golfs,
> since I am still new to the whole 80s vw cars im curious what the
> differances are (focusing on roccos and rabbits).
> Things I would like to know are: engine (which gets better mileage
> (spelling?), are both of the engines and other preformance affecting
> parts balanced for the car
ANY non 16v Scirocco has TONS in common with ANY Rabbit. They're all A1
chassis. Most mechanical parts are swappable. The engines and
transmissions are easily swapped - the only differences are (from earliest
to latest) carbs to CIS fuel injection (you probably won't find many North
American cars with carbs though) - CIS to CIS lambda (oxygen sensor loop
added) - CIS lambda to CIS-E (on 16v cars). (there are other systems in
later cars, but these are what you'll find commonly in Rabbits or
Sciroccos). The engines themselves are a direct swap - but if you're
looking for the best fuel economy, upgrade to the CIS lambda system if the
car isn't already equipped. All 81 and up cars came with the lambda system
(80 on California models). I personally wouldn't "upgrade" to CIS-E, not
worth the hassle IMHO...
For a great history on what cars came with what options/engines, check out
the History sections on the <scirocco.org> website in the Mk1 and Mk2
areas...
> is the rabbit P/U just a rabbit with a bed or
> the rabbit name an a vw S-10, how common are scirocco parts vs rabbit
> parts, any thing else you can think of.
The Rabbit pickup is known as a Caddy. It is basically a Rabbit with a
stretched rear end with a bed. Don't confuse the name Caddy with Cabby (a
Rabbit convertable - Cabriolet).
Scirocco parts are generally just as easy to find as Rabbit parts, except
for a few notable exceptions - ANY new Mk1 Scirocco body panels are
hard/impossible to find - including glass (I lucked out on finding a brand
new Mk1 windshield - one of the things made of "unobtainium"). Mk2 Scirocco
and Rabbit body panels are still readily available (but there are signs that
stock is running out on various items - get'em while you can!)
If you have more specific questions as to which part you would like to swap
from a different car, there are many knowlegable people on this list who
will be able to answer your question. What is the basis for your questions
btw?
Mark
80 S
81 S
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of ATS - Patrick
> Bureau
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 6:46 AM
> To: Jacob; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: RE: kinda OT rocco vs. rabbit
>
>
> "I am still new to the whole 80s vw cars" , do you get your
> membership card
> and official 80s knight rider sticker?
>
> "differences are (focusing on roccos and rabbits)", A rabbit is a quick
> furry animal that can run veeeerrrrry fast, and helmer fud is
> always chasing
> around, a scirocco is like a rabbit but much faster, and its always being
> chase by rice-riders.
>
> "is the rabbit P/U just a rabbit with a bed or the rabbit name an
> a vw S-10"
> OH your GM roots are showing on this one hehe, this is complicated and pay
> attention because many people make this mistake, a rabbit convertible is a
> cabby, but a cabby with a pick up bin is a caddy, which is still a rabbit
> pickup truck or simply known as Volkswagen pickup truck, but a caddy is a
> caddy and is not a cabby, got it now ?
>
> as far a "common" parts, depends really on the years, the A1 MKII (82-88)
> USA (82-89) CANADA (82-92) Europe, share little especially in the later
> years of production (16v engines series) with the rabbit itself.
> That said.
> The Cabby from 85-89 does share some of the same engine/tranny
> and gas tank
> *rocco 84-92* (large) But the A1 MKII (74-81) and the rabbit do
> have lots of
> parts (OEM) common mechanically that is.
>
> I feel there is an underlying question in all of this missing, what parts
> from what model I can use on my scirocco, well engine wise ALOT of the VW
> engines/trannies is a drop into the car fit (and then add some AUDI models
> (80, 90), heck someone even put a diesel caddy engine in a rocco...
>
> so we may be able to help you a little more if you have a "does
> this fit" or
> " can I swap out" question ok ?
>
> hope this was entertaining, and hopefully helpful all at once.
>
> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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>
> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Jacob
> =>Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 2:59 AM
> =>To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> =>Subject: kinda OT rocco vs. rabbit
> =>
> =>
> =>I have noticed that many scirocco owners have or had rabbits or golfs,
> =>since I am still new to the whole 80s vw cars im curious what the
> =>differances are (focusing on roccos and rabbits).
> =>Things I would like to know are: engine (which gets better mileage
> =>(spelling?), are both of the engines and other preformance affecting
> =>parts balanced for the car (ex. The H2 apparently has an extremely small
> =>engine for its weight)), is the rabbit P/U just a rabbit with a bed or
> =>the rabbit name an a vw S-10, how common are scirocco parts vs rabbit
> =>parts, any thing else you can think of.
> =>I know my wording may be confusing to the point where I may have to
> =>retype chunks of this but its late and im tired.
> =>
> =>
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