Megasquirt: group buy / assemble ?

[madsci@rf.org (Madsci)]

So, wait.. Are you offering to assemble these, or at least help assemble
them, in exchange for a freebie for the GRM car? Or am I way off? I'd
definitely be interested if there's enough of a response. I was planning
on putting one on my BMW this summer, since all the required sensors and
plumbing are already there, and then seeing about doing the scirocco
based on the experience with the BMW.Anyway, count me in for at least
one, maybe two, if this works out.

-Zach

On Mon, 2003-04-14 at 23:17, Brian McGarvey wrote:
> Ok folks,
> I have a deal for ya. (GRM guy talking so you know there's something in it 
> for the racecar for free -- taking donations again.. yes already plan is 
> for the top 15 next year). 
> 
> If you know what megasquirt is you know im talking to you if not then you 
> dont then go google and read up on it. its Electronic Fuel injection. 
> 
> http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html
> 
> 
> 
> So here is the deal.
> Im willing to put my electronic skills on the table for barter so I can 
> get a megasquirt for the car. Here is the basic plan. If there is 
> sufficient interest. 
> 
> The megasquirt system has some basic components. 
> 
> ECU
> Relay box (so you can mount megasquirt ECU inside your leaky rocco.
> sensors 
> wiring harness
> 
> then there is a stimulator board that you plug it into to test and 
> configure. A basic megasquirt ECU + relay box costs about $180 in parts
> 
> the stimulator box costs about $50.00
> 
> Then you have to put it together. and build your wiring harness. 
> if a few people want to go in on a purchase. we can build some very nice 
> systems. 
> 
> What I think. CIS is good to about 170-180 HP. You can upgrade the fuel 
> system to a larger 240T CIS distributor. and get to about 220.
> 
> The people who generally want this are looking to be boosted or nitrous 
> injectioned folks who need ALOT more gas and dont want to screw with digi1 
> etc. 
> 
> Basic iterations of the upgrades.
> 1.8L low comp (turbo)
> 
> 1.8L G60 (turbo or supercharger)
> 
> 1.8T 20v elimnates need for FI but not ignition -- not an option until 
> megajolt or GRM special comes online
> 
> 2.0L xflow (turbo and non-turbo)
> 2.0L 8v CIS head (turbo and non-turbo)
> 
> 2.0L 16v (tunability)
> 2.0L 16v (turbo / supercharger)
> 
> 
> all these types of upgrades can benefit from a clean megasquirt install.
> with a group type buy of wiring, parts, and some distributed work there 
> could be some very nice megasquirt installs on the list. 
> 
> Issues. 
> sensor layouts and wiring lengths
> metal fabrication of the enclosure boxes. purchase is easily avail, but 
> faceplate cutout is the issue. 
> electronic parts assembly and test. 
> They use some basic non weather/harsh environment connectors we might want 
> to upgrade, cause well - A1's leak.... alot... often ... right on fuse 
> boxes.. 
> This only supplies the electronics. we need to find an easy and cheap 
> solution for mountable fuel rails for the stock 8v head, stock 16v head, 
> the xflow, g60, 20v all have one already. The best solution IMHO would be 
> a stock VW part like the late model cabby digi2 fuel rail, but pressure 
> issues may be a problem for really high boost apps.
> 
> A starting/default map for each of these motors. 
> 
> Just so you know the GRM car was going to use the stock Jetronic and knock 
> box for ignition mapping and a little electronic magic. But we gotta have 
> the car running first. 
> 
> So now it boils down to cost. 
> the fixed purchase of the stimulator and screws is about 70.00 for the 
> first 5 and and extra $30.00 for each additional set of 5. 
> 
> The fee for this will be 1 megasquirt kit / 5 built --> these will go 
> toward a GRM car first -- sporting rocco.org stickers if none are needed 
> any additional will be traded off to support GRM cars. 
> 
> Without the wiring harness or engine sensors that you will need. cost per 
> purchaser is approximately as follows
> group buy members    cost / member
> 3 -                  ~330.00
> 4 -                   295.00
> 5 -                   271.00 
> 10 -                  250.00
> 
> This is an estimate all labor is donated. 
> We can make nice wiring harnesses, but it will take some experimentation 
> and planning. 
> 
> Brian -- not taking money just suggestions.
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> work)
> 84 0v Next years car got parts? parts for Dougs car now
> 82 2.0L Topless bunny -- Knock Ignition and bigger clutch. next.
> 90 90q20v doing daily driver duty. 
> 91 VFR750F everybody needs a 11-12 sec vehicle.
> 
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