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Subject: does this sound right?
From: AMEERVWKING@COMCAST.NET (VWKING)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:20:58 -0400
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ok dan the man i am up to the challenge what the hell where are you located
we can find the nearest dyno to us both and i will or you can bring a test
vehicle cis-e of course and i will right before your eyes do the
transformation and if it gives 20hp or more you pay for dyno time if its
less i pay for it deal?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
To: "VWKING" <AMEERVWKING@COMCAST.NET>; "list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: does this sound right?


> Before we go any further I think you have to substantiate your claim about
> 747's.
> You didn't read that in Popular Mechanics, did you???
> Christ! 25 years ago my dad wrote a program for McDonnell-Douglas that
could
> calculate any performance parameter; time to altitude, fuel to altitude,
> time to velocity, etc. etc. for an F4 Phantom within 10%! Tremendous
strides
> have been made since then in the ability to accurately calculate
mechanical
> or aerodynamic performance. Engineering calculations can be inaccurate,
but
> seldom by an order or magnitude, unless the calculation didn't take all
the
> variables into account.
> So, let me reiterate. I get the impression you're thinking the 35 hp (or
> something close to it) is possible.
> I'm stating it's not. This modification, by itself, if good for 10% or
less!
> (probably closer to 5%)
> Dan
> Continually amazed that people think engineering is black magic!
> BTW anybody read Samrabbit's claims on Vortex how he "loves to rewrite
> history"? Actually, he thinks he's defying physics, but, of course, he's
> not! Even more pathetic is he doesn't know the difference between history
> and physics!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: VWKING <AMEERVWKING@COMCAST.NET>
> To: list <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 2:21 PM
> Subject: Re: does this sound right?
>
>
> > everything that you calculate on paper is not necessarily true. on paper
 a
> > 747 should not make it off the ground but its done everyday! somethings
> you
> > just have to try for yourself!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
> > To: "VWKING" <AMEERVWKING@COMCAST.NET>; "list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 10:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: does this sound right?
> >
> >
> > > Does that mean I CAN knock it since I have tried it????
> > > It's not digi, but Haltech is speed density. NO intake restriction!
> > > It ain't 35 hp!
> > > I mean come on! You'd have to see a 3 psi pressure drop inlet to
> throttle
> > > body with CIS to pick up 35 HP by going to something else. I've
measured
> > it.
> > > It's less than 1 psi. And the intake restriction on  a VR6 with MAF
> based
> > > Motronic has an inlet pressure drop of ~.5 psi. So, if you go from CIS
> to
> > > MAF based digi you're going to pick up ~4% if you do everything right.
> > > (unless, of course, your car's CIS is in sorry assed condition before
> you
> > > start!)
> > > So, where's the 35 hp hiding in .5 psi inlet pressure difference?
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: VWKING <AMEERVWKING@COMCAST.NET>
> > > To: list <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 10:32 AM
> > > Subject: Re: does this sound right?
> > >
> > >
> > > > dont knock it till you try it!
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
> > > > To: "VWKING" <AMEERVWKING@COMCAST.NET>; "list"
> > <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>;
> > > > "The Hitman" <vwscir88@hotmail.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 5:06 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: does this sound right?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > You didn't say whether he's talking 8V or 16V, but in any case 35
hp
> > is
> > > at
> > > > > least a 25% gain.
> > > > > No matter how you cut it CIS isn't that restrictive. And in my
> humble
> > > > > opinion, after spending a year constantly improving the tuning of
my
> > > > Haltech
> > > > > ECU, the CIS is a lot more accurate in fuel delivery than most of
> you
> > > > think.
> > > > > SDS website says power gains of 5-10% are possible going from a
MAF
> > > system
> > > > > to a speed-density system. So, if you go from CIS MAF to digi MAF
> > how's
> > > > that
> > > > > going to make 25%?
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: VWKING <AMEERVWKING@COMCAST.NET>
> > > > > To: list <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; The Hitman
> <vwscir88@hotmail.com>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 7:58 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: does this sound right?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > not fishy at all you dont even need the corrado ecu any digi ecu
> and
> > > > > harness
> > > > > > but you do need a fuel rail and with a custom chip you will feel
> > your
> > > > 16v
> > > > > do
> > > > > > things you never thought possible!
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "The Hitman" <vwscir88@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:11 PM
> > > > > > Subject: does this sound right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >   there's a guy from gruven auto works who's claiming that by
> > > > switching
> > > > > to
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > corrado g6o ecu and a fuel rail from any '91 digifont car he
> added
> > > > 35hp
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > his '88 scirocco. sounds kinda fishy to me, what do you guys
> > think?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So Sayeth The Hitman
> > > > > > > '86 "psycho 16v" scirocco
> > > > > > > '88 "stripe" 16v scirocco
> > > > > > > <http://www.techography.net:82/brettsgarage>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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