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The knock is just the sound really, it doesn't shake the engine.  It's not very loud, but definately audible.  Maybe my pump is going bad?  I thought I had my winter oil set-up pretty good; Mobil-1 full synthetic 10w-30 and a NAPA Gold oil filter.  If this indicates that my wrist pins are going bad or something, I'm going to cry-
Rob
 ATS - Patrick Bureau <txrocco@sbcglobal.net> wrote:well what I am saying is that the clattering of valves on a cold engine is normal until the oil comes up to the top (your engine is not hydraulic valves) yes, but are we talking about KNOCK that shakes the engine, then no.. which is it? 
ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net

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From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Robbie Cotner
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:59 AM
To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: JH 8v knocks when cold


OK so you're telling me my cold morning knock is normal I hope?  I'm just very anal since I built this engine myself, and in my case that does not make me rest easy:) 
Rob 
 ATS - Patrick Bureau <txrocco@sbcglobal.net> wrote: a few questions, do you have a block heater or oil pan heater on this girl ?
if not it could be the bearing of the valves complaining for the oil is take
its time to get there., an oil pan heater or block heater will keep the oil
ay 70'f and will reduce the "cold morning knock" in my humble experiences
with Canadian 8 months out of the year.

ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net

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From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On
Behalf Of Robbie Cotner
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:28 AM
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: JH 8v knocks when cold


Hey all,
now that temps are dipping well below 20F here, I have noticed in the
morning when I start up my '84(stock 1.8 JH with 8k on rebuild), it sounds
as though it is knocking. Not like an insane erratic knock, but a constant
knock-knock-knock-knock, well you get the idea. What's going on? The sound
goes away once warm. I'm running Mobil-1 synthetic 10w-30 if that has
anything to do with anything. Thanks to any who can provide even the
slightest info/help on this-
Rob




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<P>The knock is just the sound really, it doesn't shake the engine.&nbsp; It's not very loud, but definately audible.&nbsp; Maybe my pump is going bad?&nbsp; I thought I had my winter oil set-up pretty good; Mobil-1 full synthetic 10w-30 and a NAPA Gold oil filter.&nbsp; If this indicates that my wrist pins are going bad or something, I'm going to cry-
<P>Rob
<P>&nbsp;<B><I>ATS - Patrick Bureau &lt;txrocco@sbcglobal.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><SPAN class=880341921-26112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>well what I am saying is that the clattering of valves on a cold engine is normal until the oil comes up to the top (your engine is not hydraulic valves) yes, but are we talking about KNOCK that shakes the engine, then no.. which is it?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net<BR></FONT></P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Robbie Cotner<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:59 AM<BR><B>To:</B> ATS - Patrick Bureau<BR><B>Cc:</B> scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: JH 8v knocks when cold<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P>OK so you're telling me my&nbsp;cold morning knock is normal I hope?&nbsp; I'm just very anal since I built this engine myself, and in my case that does not make me rest easy:) 
<P>Rob 
<P>&nbsp;<B><I>ATS - Patrick Bureau &lt;txrocco@sbcglobal.net&gt;</I></B> wrote: 
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">a few questions, do you have a block heater or oil pan heater on this girl ?<BR>if not it could be the bearing of the valves complaining for the oil is take<BR>its time to get there., an oil pan heater or block heater will keep the oil<BR>ay 70'f and will reduce the "cold morning knock" in my humble experiences<BR>with Canadian 8 months out of the year.<BR><BR>ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On<BR>Behalf Of Robbie Cotner<BR>Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:28 AM<BR>To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>Subject: JH 8v knocks when cold<BR><BR><BR>Hey all,<BR>now that temps are dipping well below 20F here, I have noticed in the<BR>morning when I start up my '84(stock 1.8 JH with 8k on rebuild), it sounds<BR>as though it is knocking. Not like an insane erratic knock, but a constant<BR>knock-knock-knock-knock, well you get the idea. What's going on? The sound<BR>goes away once warm. I'm running Mobil-1 synthetic 10w-30 if that has<BR>anything to do with anything. Thanks to any who can provide even the<BR>slightest info/help on this-<BR>Rob<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Do you Yahoo!?<BR>Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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