ohhh......more probs.....i think it's fuel system related....

[rabbit16v@attbi.com (Dave Ewing)]

You need to replace the o-ring on the idle screw and IF you had bad injector
o-rings then you should have the air/fuel ratio set (or set it yourself if
you know how).  You set this adjusting the plunger in the fuel distributor
with a 3mm T handle allen in the little hole next to the boot.  IF you have
no idea how to do this then take it somewhere where they will charge $30 or
so to do it with a gas analyzer.  Too rich and too lean can be bad and
sometimes can only be a smidgen of a turn in either direction.  Idle is also
valuable during the setting of the air/fuel ratio and sometimes timing can
come into play when the idle is set really high to offset the bad air/fuel
mixture setting.

Seen it, done it, glad I don't have to do it everyday for a job anymore!!!
Actually it is rather entertaining to see how much of a hassle some people
cause themselves when the pittle around with their car and they have no idea
what they are doing.  I usually played the good cop though and set things
for them and sent them on their marry way with money still in their pocket.

HTH!!

Dave


> Hmm.....
> I did not change the cold start fuel line......and the starting problem
did
> not arise until after i did the line/injector swap and replaced the
injector
> seals.  it fired up the first time every time until i did the changeover.
>
> ....hopefully it's what you said about the clogged injectors.....then the
> cleaner i put in should take care of it.....right?  please?  =)
>
> i just read a thread on vwvortex.com about a whacky idle, start, and loss
of
> power after an injector seal replacement....and a bad air/fuel
> mixture........how the heck would i remedy that if it's the
> problem.....would that be with the idle screw?
>
> after i ran it hard, the idle screw would kinda push itself out a bit and
> i'd have to reset it to get it to idle at 1k rpms.....
>
> eh?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Ewing" <rabbit16v@attbi.com>
> To: "Scirocco List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:58 PM
> Subject: Re: ohhh......more probs.....i think it's fuel system related....
>
>
> > Maybe you got the lines mixed around ; )  Just kidding, you can't mix
them
> > up.  BUT, if you are trying to find a starting problem it won't be with
> the
> > injectors or the lines unless you have plugged lines or leaking
injectors.
> > Another hardstart symptom is if the spray pattern is messed up and the
> > injector is just shooting a stream.  I'd look closer at your cold start
> > system if I were you.  Sounds like you might have warm-up regulator
> problems
> > or a leaky cold start valve.  Maybe even a goofy temp sensor/thermo time
> > switch.  HTH!!
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > > OK, sooo.......
> > > in my 77 rocco....
> > > my fuel lines were getting bad, so i got some used one's in better
> > > shape.....they came with injectors too and those had less miles on
them
> > than
> > > mine, so i figured what the hell, and put them in as well with new
> > injector
> > > seals.
> > > I also had a little gas pedal/throttle cable problem....the cable came
> off
> > > the pedal, i kinda fixed it, but since the cable wasn't coming out
> > straight
> > > through the firewall the cable would stick at about 1/4 throttle....
> > >
> > > So i finally fixed that.
> > >
> > > then tried to fire it up......
> > > it took a while to start it, then it tired to idle around 400
> > rpms.....that
> > > didn't work so well. it then did not idle.
> > >
> > > but it ran great otherwise, just as long as it didn't have to idle, or
> if
> > i
> > > kept the rpm's up with the throttle.
> > >
> > > The fuel lines don't seem to be leaking.....
> > >
> > > I was thinking beceause of the bad injector seals, maybe the idle
screw
> > was
> > > turned up to take care of that......so i turned up the idle screw. The
> car
> > > began to idle fine. However, the start is still rough, and it usually
> > takes
> > > 2-4 tries to get it going. The other thing was a noticeable power
loss.
> > >
> > > uhhh......any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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