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Subject: central locking ?
From: pbureau@attbi.com (pbureau@attbi.com)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 03:00:11 +0000
if get all doors unlocked and disconnect power to the 
pump, then you can use all locks manually, but be warned 
that if the CLS has not been activated in a while, you 
will need to "activate" the master lock a few times 
before it actually restarts up properly as per bentley

BTW if you have the ETKA you can see clearly in the body 
section the whole vacuum system lines in a diagram, make 
easy work of figuring out what is where.

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ATS - Patrick Bureau
1985 8v Euro GTX 3A/JH Project
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1988 16v FOR SALE : 1500.00$ 
all details at 
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> found it. one leak at the gas tank door, one at the hatch lock. the hatch is 
> still a lil' tricky to open, but at least the noise is gone.
>    thanks guys
>      hit
> 
> 
> >From: pbureau@attbi.com
> >To: "the hitman" <vwscir88@hotmail.com>
> >CC: jtoomasson@yahoo.com, jkarlsso@metabolex.com, type53@yahoo.com, 
> >scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> >Subject: Re: central locking ?
> >Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 02:13:40 +0000
> >
> >normally you can hear the central locking system pump
> >(located in the passenger side rear quarter panel of the
> >truck) when you turn the key in the driver side door as
> >it locks or unlocks the doors, hatch and panel for the
> >gas. after that you should not hear the vacuum pump
> >work, if you do, It probably indcates one or two things;
> >namely a) you have a vacuum leak where the pump is
> >trying to empty the lines (or push air throught it
> >(locking/unlocking) all locations it normally acutates
> >or b) one of your actuators (doors, hatch and above the
> >vacuum pump (one that actuates the gas panel lock) is
> >leaking and the causing the pump to function non stop.
> >
> >its really a simple system, open doors, and hatch and
> >actuate the locks you should be able to hear where the
> >leaking is coming from.
> >
> >====
> >ATS - Patrick Bureau
> >1985 8v Euro GTX 3A/JH Project
> >--------------------------------
> >1988 16v FOR SALE : 1500.00$
> >all details at
> >http://longcoeur.com/scirocco/atsca
> >rs/88rocco/index.html
> > > is the vaccum pump supposed to be that noisy (loud enough to hear over 
> >the
> > > starting car) and make that noise every time you put the key in?
> > > p.s.- sorry for all the ?'s, like i said this is my 1st experience with 
> >the
> > > cls.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Jeff Toomasson <jtoomasson@yahoo.com>
> > > >To: the hitman <vwscir88@hotmail.com>, jkarlsso@metabolex.com,
> > > >type53@yahoo.com, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > >Subject: Re: central locking ?
> > > >Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:42:47 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  the motor noise is the vacuum pump. It's dedicated to the CLS. I 
> >imagine
> > > >if you disconnect any of the hoses that the associated lock, if not the
> > > >whole system, will not operate...
> > > >   the hitman <vwscir88@hotmail.com> wrote: so what is this electric 
> >motor
> > > >noise i'm hearing? it's definatley coming
> > > >from the hatch. and if the cls is vaccuum operated, anyone know what 
> >will
> > > >happen if i disconnect the lines? will the hatch lock still operate?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Jeff Toomasson
> > > > >To: "Jonas K." , Mash , the
> > > > >hitman , scirocco list
> > > > >Subject: Re: central locking ?
> > > > >Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:02:47 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I have the same issue. I cannot leave the hatch lock in the 
> >"unlocked"
> > > > >(parallel to the ground)position and remove the key. It only turns 
> >4/5 of
> > > > >the way - I can open the trunk by pushing in the key at that 
> >point...I've
> > > > >always thought it was just a bum lock and was planning on replacing 
> >it...
> > > > >What I remember about the CLS from later VWs is that you can leave 
> >the
> > > >lock
> > > > >in the "unlocked" (parallel to the ground) position and the CLS will 
> >lock
> > > > >it when activated and unlock it when de-activated.
> > > > >Has anyone actually FIXED it?? ;)
> > > > >JT
> > > > > "Jonas K." wrote: On 5/22/02 4:28 PM, "Mash"
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > --- the hitman wrote:
> > > > > >> i can't get the hatch to open. i have
> > > > > >> to fiddle with the key
> > > > > >> for a LONG time,
> > > > >
> > > > >It's vacuum powered. If there's a leak then it could be the problem, 
> >but
> > > > >usually the pump will run for a real long time, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > >Probably a lock problem, proper operation is sorta like this.
> > > > >
> > > > >When the lock is in the "open" position, the CLS controls the rear 
> >lock.
> > > > >When the lock is in the "closed" position, the CLS will not unlock 
> >the
> > > > >hatch.
> > > > >When the CLS is locked, then you have to turn the key in the trunk to
> > > > >unlock, does not matter to which position. My memory is vague, but 
> >there
> > > > >alternatively might be a 3rd position for this function, one in which 
> >the
> > > > >key can't be removed.
> > > > >
> > > > >HTH
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dunno. My '85 has this, but the compressor for it does
> > > > > > not work for whatever reasons. The hatch is different
> > > > > > from my other sciroccos in that I must turn the key
> > > > > > and then push in to open the hatch. It is not possible
> > > > > > to leave the hatch lock in an "open" position like my
> > > > > > other Sciroccos.
> > > > >
> > > > >Mark,
> > > > >Check the wiring to the pump, with the driver's door locked vs 
> >unlocked.
> > > > >The
> > > > >bentley has the wiring laid out, if it doesn't seem right, then check
> > > >that
> > > > >the switch in the driver door is functioning, and that the wiring is
> > > >right.
> > > > >Try to power the pump from another power source, and see if it 
> >actully
> > > > >works.
> > > > >
> > > > >One cool thing about the CLS is that it locks the gascap flap, so the
> > > >punks
> > > > >can't drop nasty stuff in there just for fun.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jonas
> > > > >
> > > > >
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