16v assembly trouble

[rick@brubakerbox.com (Rick Alexander)]

I have a greasy old Bentley, this is how I can definitively say that the
ignition and fuel systems are working. I've done all of the checks for
these. Although I'm far from a novice at building engines, this is my fir=
st
water-cooled VW. I'll also admit that valve timing has given me fits befo=
re
but I've never failed for three days to sort it out. By posting these
questions I'm really asking what is peculiar about the 1.8 16v and what's=
 up
with the v belt pulley mark being off by 90 Deg.?

Rick Alexander
http://www.brubakerbox.com
http://clubs.hemmings.com/hams/
http://clubs.hemmings.com/vwsrus/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Adams" <roclist@accessconsulting.ca>
To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: 16v assembly trouble


> Do you have a bentley?
>
> I've found it very usefull when it comes to timing / ignition / clutch =
/
> brake etc... work.
>
> With your flywheel at TDC the mark on the cam gear will be lining up wi=
th
> the mark on the valve cover (or 180=B0 out, if this is the case rotate =
the
> crank another revolution), always rotate the crank clockwise (when look=
ing
> from pass side), when these marks are lined up the ignition timing is
> roughly set as the distributer is directly linked to the camshafts (no
> intermediate shaft to line up). The distributer will only go on one way.
> Keep the screws for the distributer snug but not tight, btw use the hol=
es
at
> 10 and 4 for the distributer not 2 and 8! DOH! If everything is working=
 ie
> knock box, hall sender, ignition computer, feul delivery, etc... (this =
is
> where the bentley really helps!), the car will start, may not run well,
but
> now you can time the spark by rotating the distributer and using a timi=
ng
> gun...
>
> I've got some pics if you want more help...
>
> Jason Adams
> Fahrvergnugen Forever!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Alexander" <rick@brubakerbox.com>
> To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: 16v assembly trouble
>
>
> Thanks Peter, I have an antique "push it in the hole" type of compressi=
on
> tester and of course that is of no value where a 16v is concerned.
>
> I've reset everything based upon the flywheel TDC mark which looks to b=
e
> correct. Now I have another question that stems from my ignorance of
> electronic ignition. In the old days, oh I'm old, so rather I should sa=
y
in
> the time of points and condenser a test light could be put on to get to
the
> approximate ignition timing. Then when it was running the dynamic timin=
g
> light would finish the job. How do you set the ignition timing up for t=
he
> first run? The timing light is rather pointless before it runs.
>
> Rick Alexander
> http://www.brubakerbox.com
> http://clubs.hemmings.com/hams/
> http://clubs.hemmings.com/vwsrus/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The Scirocco" <peter@thescirocco.com>
> To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: 16v assembly trouble
>
>
> >
> > ---------- Original Message -------------------------
> > ---------
> > From: "Rick Alexander" <rick@brubakerbox.com>
> > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:06:34 -0500
> >
> > >Ok, I'm stumped and require the assistance of the
> > list.
> > >
> > >This is a completely rebuilt 1.8 16v. I've
> > installed it in Rolling Roc ('87)
> > >but can't get it to run. Ignition is operating,
> > fuel system is operating.
> > >The only thing left is the valve timing. I've been
> > mixing and matching
> > >things for three days now and I can't get it. I
> > have assumed that the timing
> > >marks on the cam gear indicate TDC. However it
> > appears that the v belt
> > >pulley is 90 deg. from TDC according to the dial
> > indicator in #1 cylinder
> > >and the marks on the flywheel. The v belt pulley
> > is "keyed" so that it can
> > >be installed only one way. What have I missed here?
> > Is the valve timing set
> > >up somewhere other than TDC?
> > >
> > >Rick Alexander
> > >http://www.brubakerbox.com
> > >http://clubs.hemmings.com/hams/
> > >http://clubs.hemmings.com/vwsrus/
> > >
> >
> > I dunno...
> >
> > I would do a compression check, that should tell you
> > if the valve timing is right.
> >
> > When I installed my 16V, I had to lift up on the air
> > flow plate to start it for the first time.
> >
> > HTH!
> >
> > Peter - Bear Delaware 19701
> > '79 Scirocco 16V, '83 & '84 GTI
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