[ot] dealerships and how to handle the fsk'her's

[pbureau@attbi.com (ATS - Patrick Bureau)]

yeah the way I deal when I get a new-used car from a dealer...price tag
19.500 (98 jeep)...
guys comes over... can I help you....
Yes! I will take that one at 17.500.
but sir the price tag...(cut him off)
pulling out a check with 17,500$ certified from bank,
17.500 all inclusive, I want it now, you have 2 mins to make you mind up or
I will go you competitor across the street and get myself something else.
(30 seconds after he runs inside to get mgr approval)
No problem 17.500 + taxes....
start walking away...
Sir?
I said 17.500 ALL included...
But Sir...sigh.... Very well sir. 17.500$ all inclusive.
(all inclusive also ended up including 3 year/100K warranty)
When you have pre-approve bank loan, its cash in the hand that counts. and
dealers knows that cash in hand will get me a vehicule across the street.


As for test driving a car, goto dealer, get in car, wait until sales person
asks... could I test drive? no papers to sign... that is bullshit.
if they pull out a form... you simply tell them, Oh I am sorry, I think I
will check that saturn dealer, I don;t need to fill paperwork to test drive
a car there, and they are a simlling bunch. So sorry My mistake...and walk
away .. I bet you will get begged an apologise before you get to the doors.

Dealership are all huff and puff, push back treat them with serious stern
looks as in, buddy I aint going to take this shit very long attitude, and
you will have a sale person that is now stuck with attitute monger and
trying to make a sale, he will a) mellow out b) walk away, and if he walks
away, grab the floor manager and ask him why "benny idiot saleperson" walked
away when you started asking question about the product, isnt he qualified
to answer simple public questions and why is he trying to give your forms to
check credit report to "test drive " a car... man! I would have a feild day
with those morons.


I like Rusty Wallace VW bveleive it or not, they know their products,
options, and they dont try to fuck with you. thats all I ask of a dealer.
(oh yeah and stock Scirocco parts heheh)


Patrick ( who loves to make a scene in public....)

=>-----Original Message-----
=>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
=>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of T Berk
=>Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:53 AM
=>To: Scirocco List
=>Subject: Re: Subaru?
=>
=>
=>Shawn C Meze wrote:
=>>
=>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:51:53 -0800 Kevin Collins
=><kcollins1@socal.rr.com>
=>> writes:
=><snip>
=>> There is a new Beetle out that in order to test drive the car, they will
=>> do a credit check on you FIRST which you must clear and qualify.
=>>
=>> WTF is THAT all about.
=>>
=>> Shawn Méze
=>
=>
=>That is Time to Find a New Dealer time. Sleazy credit checks are a bad
=>habit of dealers, some don't even let you know- one time (about ten
=>years back) the spouse and I were going around to get lots of test
=>drives but we were very young and naive; found out later our credit
=>rating took a hi because of all the credit checks that got run, some
=>without our knowledge or consent.
=>
=>As for the debate re: Subaru, the GF bought a wagon with an auto trans.
=>It's STILL a bad assed car, blows the VW Golf away, except the VW/Audi
=>has more options like leather and a slight fit n' finish lead over the
=>Subbie. Once you get in the car and drive it starts to shine.
=>
=>The Redwood City Subaru dealer sold her the car at a few points over
=>dealer invoice. No games, no checking with the manager, none of that BS.
=>'Here is the price, the WRX will be a few more points higher but here is
=>It's price also'. No hassle.
=>
=>Go down to the VW dealer and get all sticky feeling. <yuck>
=>
=>TBerk
=>
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