Scott Williams wrote: > I dunno about you, but to me the average new VW or Audi seems bland. I generally agree - but go drive the new-for-'02 Audi A4, with 1.8T, quattro, and the sport package - that car most DEFINITELY has soul to go along with its refinement! -- Kevin Collins Huntington Beach, CA '86.5 16V 2.0 '00 Passat GLS 1.8T