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What about the port? was: Do these things work?
Wow for once I was right.... LETS THROW a PARTY!
hehehe
Patrick
=>-----Original Message-----
=>From: Larry [mailto:rocco16v@netzero.com]
=>Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 7:13 PM
=>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau; Dan Bubb; Scirocco-l@scirocco.org;
=>flaatr@yahoo.com
=>Subject: Re: What about the port? was: Do these things work?
=>
=>
=>After reading Allyn's and PB's comments, sketching, and
=>visualising, I have
=>to reverse my former position on this. If the interface (the plane of the
=>joint) is on a near-perfect radial line from the center of radius, an
=>insertion of a straight section will not appreciably alter airflow, other
=>than to add to the 'tuned length'.
=>They are correct, I was not.
=>(okay, guys, what do I owe ya'?)
=>
=>Larry sandiego16V
=>
=>
=>> okay that I can understand, but in this case the turn is still made the
=>same
=>> (intake to gasket) and then it straight line again
=>>
=>> soin paraboling what your saying, if the turn was there, anyways but
=>instead
=>> of a turn then arival, you have a turn and a stretch of straight line
=>before
=>> the finish line you would tehnicaly not only make your turn
=>correct but be
=>> able to accelerate that stretch of straight line to the finish line, so
=>> actually your flow would be better not worst no ?
=>>
=>> Patrick
=>>
=>> =>-----Original Message-----
=>> =>From: Larry [mailto:rocco16v@netzero.com]
=>> =>Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 7:30 AM
=>> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau; Dan Bubb; Scirocco-l@scirocco.org;
=>> =>flaatr@yahoo.com
=>> =>Subject: Re: What about the port? was: Do these things work?
=>> =>
=>> =>
=>> =>Patrick-
=>> => Imagine a nice, constant-radius turn. You are carving around it in
=>your
=>> =>'roc, on your way to first place in the Watkins Glen GP. No, problems
=>> =>right?
=>> =>Now take that same curve, have the course marshall stand on the
=>> =>side of the
=>> =>curve, waving you over so that you have to make a jog to avoid some
=>debris
=>> =>left on the track by your closest competitor. In the avoidance
=>manuever,
=>> =>you have to make two, quick, 23degree jinks...a short right-left.
=>> => Slows you
=>> =>down, right? Disrupts your smooth 'flow' through the turn, no?
=>> =>Upsets the
=>> =>process, just a little, but it hurts.
=>> =>Same with airflow.
=>> =>
=>> =>Larry
=>> =>----- Original Message -----
=>> =>From: ATS - Patrick Bureau <pbureau@attbi.com>
=>> =>To: Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>; <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>;
=>> =><flaatr@yahoo.com>
=>> =>Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 5:22 AM
=>> =>Subject: RE: What about the port? was: Do these things work?
=>> =>
=>> =>
=>> =>> so instead of having air streaming at a angle 23' steep
=>into the head
=>> =>> opening, now it actually still has the same angle (intake
=>to gasket of
=>> =>23')
=>> =>> but during the 3/8" thickness of the gasket it is actually a
=>> =>straight line
=>> =>> into the head. So? would that be a bad thing? I would think
=>> =>this would be
=>> =>a
=>> =>> good thing (air comes into head at a straight flat 0' angle (or
=>> =>180' angle
=>> =>> what ever side you looking at it.) why would this be detrimental,
=>please
=>> =>> explain.
=>> =>>
=>> =>> ATS Patrick
=>> =>>
=>> =>> =>-----Original Message-----
=>> =>> =>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
=>> =>> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Dan Bubb
=>> =>> =>Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 6:14 AM
=>> =>> =>To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org; flaatr@yahoo.com
=>> =>> =>Subject: What about the port? was: Do these things work?
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>Aside from the potential reduction in heat has anybody
=>> =>thought about the
=>> =>> =>port shape?
=>> =>> =>The port exits from the head at ~23deg from perpendicular. So,
=>putting
=>> =>in
=>> =>> =>this spacer gives you a short section perpendicular to the head
=>> =>> =>and offsets
=>> =>> =>the axis of the manifold port from the head port by about 1/8".
=>> =>> =>Significant?? I'd think it's a bigger factor than loosing a
=>> =>little heat.
=>> =>> =>Dan
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>----- Original Message -----
=>> =>> =>From: Euroroc II <flaatr@yahoo.com>
=>> =>> =>To: <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; <flaatr@yahoo.com>
=>> =>> =>Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:54 PM
=>> =>> =>Subject: Do these things work?
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> Seems like a good idea and it makes sense like it should work
=>> =>> =>but does it?
=>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=
=>> =>> =>1809256474
=>> =>> =>&r=0&t=0
=>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>> -Raffi
=>> =>> =>> '84 Scirocco gone to a better place
=>> =>> =>> '87 Scirocco 16V from Hell
=>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>>
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