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What about the port? was: Do these things work?
But, I'll still come to your party!
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: ATS - Patrick Bureau <pbureau@attbi.com>
To: Larry <rocco16v@netzero.com>; Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>;
<Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; <flaatr@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 5:30 PM
Subject: RE: What about the port? was: Do these things work?
> Wow for once I was right.... LETS THROW a PARTY!
> hehehe
>
> Patrick
>
> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>From: Larry [mailto:rocco16v@netzero.com]
> =>Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 7:13 PM
> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau; Dan Bubb; Scirocco-l@scirocco.org;
> =>flaatr@yahoo.com
> =>Subject: Re: What about the port? was: Do these things work?
> =>
> =>
> =>After reading Allyn's and PB's comments, sketching, and
> =>visualising, I have
> =>to reverse my former position on this. If the interface (the plane of
the
> =>joint) is on a near-perfect radial line from the center of radius, an
> =>insertion of a straight section will not appreciably alter airflow,
other
> =>than to add to the 'tuned length'.
> =>They are correct, I was not.
> =>(okay, guys, what do I owe ya'?)
> =>
> =>Larry sandiego16V
> =>
> =>
> =>> okay that I can understand, but in this case the turn is still made
the
> =>same
> =>> (intake to gasket) and then it straight line again
> =>>
> =>> soin paraboling what your saying, if the turn was there, anyways but
> =>instead
> =>> of a turn then arival, you have a turn and a stretch of straight line
> =>before
> =>> the finish line you would tehnicaly not only make your turn
> =>correct but be
> =>> able to accelerate that stretch of straight line to the finish line,
so
> =>> actually your flow would be better not worst no ?
> =>>
> =>> Patrick
> =>>
> =>> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>> =>From: Larry [mailto:rocco16v@netzero.com]
> =>> =>Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 7:30 AM
> =>> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau; Dan Bubb; Scirocco-l@scirocco.org;
> =>> =>flaatr@yahoo.com
> =>> =>Subject: Re: What about the port? was: Do these things work?
> =>> =>
> =>> =>
> =>> =>Patrick-
> =>> => Imagine a nice, constant-radius turn. You are carving around it in
> =>your
> =>> =>'roc, on your way to first place in the Watkins Glen GP. No,
problems
> =>> =>right?
> =>> =>Now take that same curve, have the course marshall stand on the
> =>> =>side of the
> =>> =>curve, waving you over so that you have to make a jog to avoid some
> =>debris
> =>> =>left on the track by your closest competitor. In the avoidance
> =>manuever,
> =>> =>you have to make two, quick, 23degree jinks...a short right-left.
> =>> => Slows you
> =>> =>down, right? Disrupts your smooth 'flow' through the turn, no?
> =>> =>Upsets the
> =>> =>process, just a little, but it hurts.
> =>> =>Same with airflow.
> =>> =>
> =>> =>Larry
> =>> =>----- Original Message -----
> =>> =>From: ATS - Patrick Bureau <pbureau@attbi.com>
> =>> =>To: Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>; <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>;
> =>> =><flaatr@yahoo.com>
> =>> =>Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 5:22 AM
> =>> =>Subject: RE: What about the port? was: Do these things work?
> =>> =>
> =>> =>
> =>> =>> so instead of having air streaming at a angle 23' steep
> =>into the head
> =>> =>> opening, now it actually still has the same angle (intake
> =>to gasket of
> =>> =>23')
> =>> =>> but during the 3/8" thickness of the gasket it is actually a
> =>> =>straight line
> =>> =>> into the head. So? would that be a bad thing? I would think
> =>> =>this would be
> =>> =>a
> =>> =>> good thing (air comes into head at a straight flat 0' angle (or
> =>> =>180' angle
> =>> =>> what ever side you looking at it.) why would this be detrimental,
> =>please
> =>> =>> explain.
> =>> =>>
> =>> =>> ATS Patrick
> =>> =>>
> =>> =>> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>> =>> =>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> =>> =>> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Dan Bubb
> =>> =>> =>Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 6:14 AM
> =>> =>> =>To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org; flaatr@yahoo.com
> =>> =>> =>Subject: What about the port? was: Do these things work?
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>Aside from the potential reduction in heat has anybody
> =>> =>thought about the
> =>> =>> =>port shape?
> =>> =>> =>The port exits from the head at ~23deg from perpendicular. So,
> =>putting
> =>> =>in
> =>> =>> =>this spacer gives you a short section perpendicular to the head
> =>> =>> =>and offsets
> =>> =>> =>the axis of the manifold port from the head port by about 1/8".
> =>> =>> =>Significant?? I'd think it's a bigger factor than loosing a
> =>> =>little heat.
> =>> =>> =>Dan
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>----- Original Message -----
> =>> =>> =>From: Euroroc II <flaatr@yahoo.com>
> =>> =>> =>To: <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; <flaatr@yahoo.com>
> =>> =>> =>Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:54 PM
> =>> =>> =>Subject: Do these things work?
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>> Seems like a good idea and it makes sense like it should work
> =>> =>> =>but does it?
> =>> =>> =>>
> =>> =>> =>>
> =>> =>>
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> =>> =>> =>> -Raffi
> =>> =>> =>> '84 Scirocco gone to a better place
> =>> =>> =>> '87 Scirocco 16V from Hell
> =>> =>> =>>
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