[tech] swaybar question

[jdbubb@ix.netcom.com (Dan Bubb)]

Well, let me just say this.
Installing a stiffer rear bar WILL increase oversteer or decrease
understeer depending on you perspective. Whether the change is enough to
be a problem, again, depends on your perspective. I like trailing
throttle oversteer cause it keeps you pointing in the right direction
while you're scrubing off speed if you go burning into a corner too
fast. But, having pronounced trailing throttle oversteer just means the
car swaps ends before it has a chance to scrub off speed. I think that's
what this bigger rear bar will do to an otherwise stock 8V.
I don't know what the aftermarket is thinking. Maybe, they assume you
will upgrade your springs first. Probably they adjusted the front/rear
spring rate ratio so they could spec the same swaybars for both
applications.
Just cause I'm an old fart and have tried some of these things doesn't
mean I want to stifle anyone expanding their personal knowledge base.
So, give it a try. It WILL increase oversteer. But, you might like it.
Just be careful while you find out.
Dan
see the other response to Jeffrey Lowe for a little tech input.


ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> 
> I was checking with etka before I mentioned the same thing you just did...
> if an 8v and 16v share the same front sway bar (and it does according to
> etka)
> if I change the rear swaybar of the 8v (20.4mm) for a 16v swaybar (24mm)
> then my car should drive like a 16v, No? so stiffer in the rear on tight
> turns (shich I never rally do anyways) but I would gain stability by the
> bigger bar preventing the 8v chassi from swinging as much (as it does more
> than the 16v anyways).
> 
> But you stated the rear end MIGHT at higher speeds want to come around the
> front more than the 8v currently does? for some reason this does not seems
> like a correct answer,but if a bigger bar is bad on an 8v why would it be
> good on an 16v, and why would all aftermarket swaybar makers, create
> 25mm/28mm (front/back) upgrades for the MKII 8v and 16v alike scirocco's ???
> 
> opening a can of worms.. and I want to know why.
> 
> Patrick
> 
> --- Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > The front swaybar is the same between the 8V and the
> > 16V.
> > If you install the 16V rear bar your car will
> > oversteer more or understeer less depending on how
> > you look at it. In particular the back end will come
> 
> > around alot more dramatically if you let off the
> > throttle in the middle of a corner.
> 
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