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16v timing woes...
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Please elaborate... When I first replaced the distributer, with the =
stock settings, it ran like poo-poo, would barely idle. Then gag if i =
tried to give it any gas. With the stock setup and the timing light I =
was looking at the back of the second notch on the flywheel (about 12=B0 =
or more retarded) when I cranked the distributer all way clockwise =
(t-belt stock position) was still ~6=B0 retarded.
I am supposed to be adjusting the timing at idle ~900 rpm, with all =
sensors hooked up right?
and yes the hall sender points toward the front of the car... would it =
run the other way?
can you see the photo?
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Eric L Ellis=20
To: roclist@accessconsulting.ca=20
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: 16v timing woes...
First, take the belt back to where it was. (ie. stock location) Then, =
make sure the distributor is bolted using the top bolt hole toward the =
front of the car, and the rear bolt should be in the bottom hole. Crank =
the dist. all the way clockwise and then back off about 10 - 12mm. =
This should get you close enough to get it started so that you can fine =
tune it.
PS. The hall sender *IS* pointed at the 7:30-8 o'clock position from =
the drivers fender isn't it?
Eric
"Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun!"
http://www.geocities.com/blitzkrieg16v
AOL IM: OneSixV
http://www.geocities.com/onesixv
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:58:33 -0800 "Jason Adams" =
<roclist@accessconsulting.ca> writes:
Okay so after my rotor did the self destruct thing inside the =
distributer cap, and messed up the hall sender, I had to get a new =
unit...
that was the easy part...
now when I removed the old distributer I was very carefull to note =
how the distributer came off. When I hooked up the new unit the car ran =
like sh%t I was careful not to move a thing when the distributer was off =
so as to not disturb my timing....
So now my timing is messed, okay, well at least it runs... Went down =
to the store and bought a timing gun... Followed proceedures in the =
Bentley, I've got the distributer cranked all the way clockwise and I =
can't see the timing mark... Car will run but has nothing under 2500rpm =
(will stall on takeoff if you don't rev it up).=20
I've got nothing to loose so I advance the cam sproket one tooth =
(mark moved toward the front of the car), I can see the timing mark now! =
with the gun... Car pulls away fine now, just like before... up untill I =
get to about 6000 rpm then it runs out of breath. I haven't put the =
timing back to stock to see if that improves top end but I suspect it =
would... I miss seeing the revs pass 7000 :)=20
Can anyone help out here...
BTW I wouldn't recommend advancing 2 teeth as it sounds like a desel =
when it runs...
jason adams
Fahrvergnugen Forever :)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please elaborate... When I first =
replaced the=20
distributer, with the stock settings, it ran like poo-poo, would barely=20
idle. Then gag if i tried to give it any gas. With the stock =
setup=20
and the timing light I was looking at the back of the second notch on =
the=20
flywheel (about 12=B0 or more retarded) when I cranked the distributer =
all way=20
clockwise (t-belt stock position) was still ~6=B0 retarded.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am supposed to be adjusting the =
timing at idle=20
~900 rpm, with all sensors hooked up right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and yes the hall sender points toward =
the front of=20
the car... would it run the other way?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>can you see the photo?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Donesixv@juno.com href=3D"mailto:onesixv@juno.com";>Eric L =
Ellis</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Droclist@accessconsulting.ca=20
=
href=3D"mailto:roclist@accessconsulting.ca";>roclist@accessconsulting.ca</=
A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 28, =
2002 9:09=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: 16v timing =
woes...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>First, take the belt back to where it was. (ie. stock =
location) =20
Then, make sure the distributor is bolted using the top bolt hole =
toward the=20
front of the car, and the rear bolt should be in the bottom =
hole. Crank=20
the dist. all the way clockwise and then back off about 10 - =
12mm. =20
This should get you close enough to get it started so that you can =
fine tune=20
it.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>PS. The hall sender *IS* pointed at the 7:30-8 =
o'clock position=20
from the drivers fender isn't it?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Eric<BR>"Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun!"<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.geocities.com/blitzkrieg16v";>http://www.geocities.com/=
blitzkrieg16v</A><BR>AOL=20
IM: OneSixV<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.geocities.com/onesixv";>http://www.geocities.com/onesix=
v</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:58:33 -0800 "Jason Adams" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:roclist@accessconsulting.ca";>roclist@accessconsulting.ca</=
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<P>Okay so after my rotor did the self destruct thing inside the =
distributer=20
cap, and messed up the hall sender, I had to get a new unit...</P>
<P>that was the easy part...</P>
<P>now when I removed the old distributer I was very carefull to =
note how=20
the distributer came off. When I hooked up the new unit the car ran =
like=20
sh%t I was careful not to move a thing when the distributer was off =
so as to=20
not disturb my timing....</P>
<P>So now my timing is messed, okay, well at least it runs... Went =
down to=20
the store and bought a timing gun... Followed proceedures in the =
Bentley,=20
I've got the distributer cranked all the way clockwise and I can't =
see the=20
timing mark... Car will run but has nothing under 2500rpm (will =
stall on=20
takeoff if you don't rev it up). </P>
<P>I've got nothing to loose so I advance the cam sproket one tooth =
(mark=20
moved toward the front of the car), I can see the timing mark now! =
with the=20
gun... Car pulls away fine now, just like before... up untill I get =
to about=20
6000 rpm then it runs out of breath. I haven't put the timing back =
to stock=20
to see if that improves top end but I suspect it would... I miss =
seeing the=20
revs pass 7000 :) </P>
<P>Can anyone help out here...</P>
<P>BTW I wouldn't recommend advancing 2 teeth as it sounds like a =
desel when=20
it runs...</P>
<P>jason adams</P>
<P>Fahrvergnugen Forever :)</P></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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