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- Subject: Fw: Begging For Help!!
- From: Larry" <rocco16v@netzero.com (Larry)
- Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:02:55 -0800
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I know there are a bunch of computer geeks on this list. Help this man =
out?
Larry
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Erik La Celle=20
To: Larry=20
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: Begging For Help!!
Larry,=20
Thank you so much for the information. This is exactly what I was =
hoping to hear (key is mainly for alignment)! I think I can salvage =
this as long as I can get the pulley pinned at exactly TDC. That =
whopping huge bolt in the end of the crankshaft should be doing =
something useful! I'll let you know how it turns out....
I'm at home and I can't send this to the list because it gets rejected =
(only works from work). I asked the list and the general consensus was =
that a different email address would do this. My email address is the =
same either place -- my name is ever so slightly different though. =
LaCelle vs. La Celle. Could that be it? Or does the list automatically =
detect an old Compaq and exclude it!?!
Thanks again
Erik L
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Larry=20
To: Erik LaCelle=20
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: Begging For Help!!
Erik-
If the keyway is chewed, it means the bolt had come loose at some =
time and let the pulley "work" the key good. Normally, there is not =
much stress on a key, it is there for alignment only. Yes, you could =
pin the pulley with a dowel pin, just make sure it is a small diameter =
dowel, since drilling the crank will weaken it. I don't see any other =
way to fix it other than remove the crank, weld it up, and re-machine =
the key. It would probably be cheaper just to buy another crank.....
Larry sandiego16V
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Erik LaCelle=20
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:34 AM
Subject: Begging For Help!!
Help!!
=20
While putting a new timing belt on replacement motor for my 16v, I =
notice the keyway for the shaft key on the crankshaft is chewed away as =
is the key itself on the main pulley. This is the one piece cast iron =
pulley for the timing belt and first v-belt. The problem is the main =
pulley can now be put on in a number of different positions. Even if I =
align the timing marks and tighten the bolt in the end of the crank, I =
doubt the pulley would stay there since there is nothing to hold it from =
rotating.
=20
Needless to say, I am completely BUMMED OUT (wanted to hear it run =
yesterday) as well as PISSED OFF at the guy I bought it from since he =
told me he heard it run and it ran well. I'm not sure how well any =
motor runs when the crankshaft is off 2-3 notches!
=20
Has anyone seen this before? Does it happen often? Or was this =
engine the victim of a bad mechanic, perhaps over zealous with a large =
impact driver on the crankshaft bolt when the key wasn't lined up right?
=20
I've thought about he possibility of drilling through the pulley =
into the crankshaft to insert a steel dowel or two to keep the pulley =
from rotating. Does anyone know what the shearing force is on the key? =
If the force is too great, I imagine a dowel would not last under the =
pressure (less surface area than a key). Any thoughts? Is there =
another fix besides replacing the crank and pulley?
=20
Dejected in Rochester,=20
Erik L
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know there are a bunch of computer =
geeks on this=20
list. Help this man out?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:lacelle@frontiernet.net"; =
title=3Dlacelle@frontiernet.net>Erik La=20
Celle</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:rocco16v@netzero.com"=20
title=3Drocco16v@netzero.com>Larry</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 18, 2002 7:25 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Begging For Help!!</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you so much for the =
information. This=20
is exactly what I was hoping to hear (key is mainly for =
alignment)! I=20
think I can salvage this as long as I can get the pulley pinned at =
exactly=20
TDC. That whopping huge bolt in the end of the crankshaft should =
be doing=20
something useful! I'll let you know how it turns =
out....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm at home and I can't send this to =
the list=20
because it gets rejected (only works from work). I asked the list =
and the=20
general consensus was that a different email address would do =
this. My=20
email address is the same either place -- my name is ever so slightly =
different=20
though. LaCelle vs. La Celle. Could that be it? Or =
does the=20
list automatically detect an old Compaq and exclude it!?!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Erik L</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:rocco16v@netzero.com"; =
title=3Drocco16v@netzero.com>Larry</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:lacelle@frontiernet.net"; =
title=3Dlacelle@frontiernet.net>Erik=20
LaCelle</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 18, 2002 =
10:01=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Begging For =
Help!!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Erik-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> If the keyway is chewed, it =
means the bolt=20
had come loose at some time and let the pulley "work" the key =
good. =20
Normally, there is not much stress on a key, it is there for alignment =
only. Yes, you could pin the pulley with a dowel pin, just make =
sure it=20
is a small diameter dowel, since drilling the crank will weaken =
it. I=20
don't see any other way to fix it other than remove the crank, weld it =
up, and=20
re-machine the key. It would probably be cheaper just to buy =
another=20
crank.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry =
sandiego16V</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:lacelle@frontiernet.net"; =
title=3Dlacelle@frontiernet.net>Erik=20
LaCelle</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org"=20
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 18, =
2002 8:34=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Begging For =
Help!!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Help!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>While putting a new timing belt on =
replacement=20
motor for my 16v, I notice the keyway for the shaft key on the =
crankshaft is=20
chewed away as is the key itself on the main pulley. This is =
the one=20
piece cast iron pulley for the timing belt and first v-belt. =
The=20
problem is the main pulley can now be put on in a number of =
different=20
positions. Even if I align the timing marks and tighten the =
bolt in=20
the end of the crank, I doubt the pulley would stay there since =
there is=20
nothing to hold it from rotating.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Needless to say, I am completely =
BUMMED OUT=20
(wanted to hear it run yesterday) as well as PISSED OFF at the =
guy I=20
bought it from since he told me he heard it run and it ran =
well. I'm=20
not sure how well any motor runs when the crankshaft is off 2-3=20
notches!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Has anyone seen this before? =
Does it=20
happen often? Or was this engine the victim of a bad mechanic, =
perhaps=20
over zealous with a large impact driver on the crankshaft bolt when =
the key=20
wasn't lined up right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've thought about he possibility =
of drilling=20
through the pulley into the crankshaft to insert a steel dowel or =
two to=20
keep the pulley from rotating. Does anyone know what the =
shearing=20
force is on the key? If the force is too great, I imagine a =
dowel=20
would not last under the pressure (less surface area than a =
key). Any=20
thoughts? Is there another fix besides replacing the crank and =
pulley?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dejected in Rochester, =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Erik=20
L</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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