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yeah he needs to subscribe his HOME and work address or just get a hotmail
account where his "rocco mailing list" will end up and that way he will be
able to mail from anywhere in the world, ythe mailing list only registered
mail addresses with the server .
ATS - Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Larry
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:03 PM
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Fw: Begging For Help!!
I know there are a bunch of computer geeks on this list. Help this man
out?
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Erik La Celle
To: Larry
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: Begging For Help!!
Larry,
Thank you so much for the information. This is exactly what I was hoping
to hear (key is mainly for alignment)! I think I can salvage this as long
as I can get the pulley pinned at exactly TDC. That whopping huge bolt in
the end of the crankshaft should be doing something useful! I'll let you
know how it turns out....
I'm at home and I can't send this to the list because it gets rejected
(only works from work). I asked the list and the general consensus was that
a different email address would do this. My email address is the same
either place -- my name is ever so slightly different though. LaCelle vs.
La Celle. Could that be it? Or does the list automatically detect an old
Compaq and exclude it!?!
Thanks again
Erik L
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry
To: Erik LaCelle
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: Begging For Help!!
Erik-
If the keyway is chewed, it means the bolt had come loose at some time
and let the pulley "work" the key good. Normally, there is not much stress
on a key, it is there for alignment only. Yes, you could pin the pulley
with a dowel pin, just make sure it is a small diameter dowel, since
drilling the crank will weaken it. I don't see any other way to fix it
other than remove the crank, weld it up, and re-machine the key. It would
probably be cheaper just to buy another crank.....
Larry sandiego16V
----- Original Message -----
From: Erik LaCelle
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:34 AM
Subject: Begging For Help!!
Help!!
While putting a new timing belt on replacement motor for my 16v, I
notice the keyway for the shaft key on the crankshaft is chewed away as is
the key itself on the main pulley. This is the one piece cast iron pulley
for the timing belt and first v-belt. The problem is the main pulley can
now be put on in a number of different positions. Even if I align the
timing marks and tighten the bolt in the end of the crank, I doubt the
pulley would stay there since there is nothing to hold it from rotating.
Needless to say, I am completely BUMMED OUT (wanted to hear it run
yesterday) as well as PISSED OFF at the guy I bought it from since he told
me he heard it run and it ran well. I'm not sure how well any motor runs
when the crankshaft is off 2-3 notches!
Has anyone seen this before? Does it happen often? Or was this
engine the victim of a bad mechanic, perhaps over zealous with a large
impact driver on the crankshaft bolt when the key wasn't lined up right?
I've thought about he possibility of drilling through the pulley into
the crankshaft to insert a steel dowel or two to keep the pulley from
rotating. Does anyone know what the shearing force is on the key? If the
force is too great, I imagine a dowel would not last under the pressure
(less surface area than a key). Any thoughts? Is there another fix besides
replacing the crank and pulley?
Dejected in Rochester,
Erik L
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D795524112-21022002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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he needs to subscribe his HOME and work address or just get a hotmail =
account=20
where his "rocco mailing list" will end up and that way he will be able =
to mail=20
from anywhere in the world, ythe mailing list only registered mail =
addresses=20
with the server .</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D795524112-21022002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>ATS -=20
Patrick</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org =
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Larry<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:03=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Fw: =
Begging For=20
Help!!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know there are a bunch of computer =
geeks on=20
this list. Help this man out?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dlacelle@frontiernet.net =
href=3D"mailto:lacelle@frontiernet.net";>Erik La=20
Celle</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drocco16v@netzero.com=20
href=3D"mailto:rocco16v@netzero.com";>Larry</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 18, 2002 7:25 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Begging For Help!!</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you so much for the =
information. This=20
is exactly what I was hoping to hear (key is mainly for =
alignment)! I=20
think I can salvage this as long as I can get the pulley pinned at =
exactly=20
TDC. That whopping huge bolt in the end of the crankshaft should =
be=20
doing something useful! I'll let you know how it turns=20
out....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm at home and I can't send this to =
the list=20
because it gets rejected (only works from work). I asked the =
list and=20
the general consensus was that a different email address would do =
this. =20
My email address is the same either place -- my name is ever so =
slightly=20
different though. LaCelle vs. La Celle. Could that be =
it? Or=20
does the list automatically detect an old Compaq and exclude=20
it!?!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Erik L</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Drocco16v@netzero.com =
href=3D"mailto:rocco16v@netzero.com";>Larry</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlacelle@frontiernet.net=20
href=3D"mailto:lacelle@frontiernet.net";>Erik LaCelle</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 18, =
2002 10:01=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Begging For =
Help!!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Erik-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> If the keyway is chewed, it =
means the=20
bolt had come loose at some time and let the pulley "work" the key=20
good. Normally, there is not much stress on a key, it is there =
for=20
alignment only. Yes, you could pin the pulley with a dowel =
pin, just=20
make sure it is a small diameter dowel, since drilling the crank =
will weaken=20
it. I don't see any other way to fix it other than remove the =
crank,=20
weld it up, and re-machine the key. It would probably be =
cheaper just=20
to buy another crank.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry =
sandiego16V</FONT></DIV>
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</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dlacelle@frontiernet.net=20
href=3D"mailto:lacelle@frontiernet.net";>Erik LaCelle</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
=
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 18, =
2002 8:34=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Begging For =
Help!!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Help!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>While putting a new timing belt =
on=20
replacement motor for my 16v, I notice the keyway for the shaft =
key on the=20
crankshaft is chewed away as is the key itself on the main =
pulley. =20
This is the one piece cast iron pulley for the timing belt and =
first=20
v-belt. The problem is the main pulley can now be put on in =
a number=20
of different positions. Even if I align the timing marks and =
tighten=20
the bolt in the end of the crank, I doubt the pulley would stay =
there=20
since there is nothing to hold it from rotating.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Needless to say, I am completely =
BUMMED OUT=20
(wanted to hear it run yesterday) as well as PISSED OFF at =
the guy I=20
bought it from since he told me he heard it run and it ran =
well. I'm=20
not sure how well any motor runs when the crankshaft is off 2-3=20
notches!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Has anyone seen this =
before? Does it=20
happen often? Or was this engine the victim of a bad =
mechanic,=20
perhaps over zealous with a large impact driver on the crankshaft =
bolt=20
when the key wasn't lined up right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've thought about he possibility =
of drilling=20
through the pulley into the crankshaft to insert a steel dowel or =
two to=20
keep the pulley from rotating. Does anyone know what the =
shearing=20
force is on the key? If the force is too great, I imagine a =
dowel=20
would not last under the pressure (less surface area than a =
key). =20
Any thoughts? Is there another fix besides replacing the =
crank and=20
pulley?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dejected in Rochester, =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Erik=20
L</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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