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Cheapass faster ratio - -point conceded



OK,,,Dan (and others) correct on all points.  Which leads me to say, in
retrospect, WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING.  I know better than this...OK
OK, the idea was dreamed up in that half-awake, half-asleep,
pre-shower, pre-coffee time (look at the original header for the time).

Sooo...don't do it.  It's a waste of time.

Dumbass Ron

--- Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> No, but the stresses in the tierod sure would get huge! With a normal
> installation where the tie rod is straight the rod only experiences
> tension
> or compression. When you put a bend in it, it also gets bending loads
> (much
> more stress, much more deflection). The greater the bend, the greater
> the
> stress and deflection, the less the wheel is pointing in the
> direction you
> want.
> Straight structures between pivot points are good.
> Dan
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com>
> To: <jester@westfailure.net>; Scirocco-Al
> <scirocco-Al@insight.rr.com>
> Cc: Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 9:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Cheapass faster steering ratio idea??
> 
> 
> > I have a sneaky feeling Dan is right..but I'm still going to mull
> it
> > over.  My old prof said "when in doubt, exaggerate."
> >
> > Sooo...if the offset was greater than the distance between the
> center
> > or rotation and the tie rod attachment point, and was placed so
> that
> > the line of the tie rod was on the other side of the center of
> > rotation, would the wheel turn the wrong way?
> >
> > Hmmm....
> >
> >
> > --- jester@westfailure.net wrote:
> > > On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Scirocco-Al wrote:
> > >
> > > > You still will have the same effective length between the inner
> tie
> > > rod and
> > > > the connection of the tie rod to the hub carrier.  Unless I'm
> > > missing
> > > > something, I think you will end up with the same thing you
> already
> > > have.
> > >
> > > The more impaortant factor is the angle of the tire rod rather
> than
> > > wether
> > > or not the attachment is offset...
> > >
> > > In physics there is something called a force vector, but this
> would
> > > show
> > > that even though the actual point of attachment is further
> outboard,
> > > teh
> > > force will be effectively applied at the point where a straight
> line
> > > along> as
> > > long as the tie rod was pinting at the center of the spindle it
> > > wouldnt
> > > matter if it was attached at both ends one end or ???
> > >
> > > But i could be wrong on this one, its been a while.
> > >
> > > take care,
> > >
> > > the rod would intersect the spindle... imagine offsetting it half
> the
> > > length of the spindle arm... it would take half the distanec to
> turn
> >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> >
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