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chassis re-enforcement v.101

Subject: chassis re-enforcement v.101
From: rocco16v@netzero.net (L F)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 07:51:15 -0800
References: <20021226.161324.-167247913.1.skerocdriver@juno.com>
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I understand (and agree with) your points, Shawn.
SO (phase two)...just how much stiffening does our =
puny-little-7/8"-tubing-with-two-bends add to the mix?  2%? 4%=20
(I can flex my No-speed strut brace by hand, and I'm no Arnold =
Schwartzeneggar....)

Larry
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Shawn c Meze=20
  To: rocco16v@netzero.net=20
  Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 4:06 PM
  Subject: Re: chassis re-enforcement v.101




  On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 06:34:46 -0800 "L F" <rocco16v@netzero.net> =
writes:
  > If the strut towers are weak, how does bracing one against the other =

  > accomplish much?  Seems like all that would do is force the two=20
  > towers to simply move in unison rather than independently?


  The strut towers arent weak so-to-say. They flex a little, which I =
think
  is normal as per the engineers. (Which is why some raced VW's tend to
  crack around the strut towers. I know of several that ended their =
racing
  this way.)=20

  So, with this flexing that the strut towers do, the strut braces =
surely
  dont completely eliminate the flexing they do but they can do much to
  limit the flexing and thusly, improve handling and the longevidity of =
the
  chassis.=20

  How they work is this; Only one strut tower will flex at any one time.
  Never both. So think of it as one strut tower leaning upon the other =
for
  added support via the strut brace. Make sense? A welded unit would do
  much more in terms of bracing but that limits certain necessary
  maintenance tasks.=20

  BTW, ive seen them on MUCH older (US) cars than VW's and they were
  plane-jane street cars.=20

  Dats dat.

  Shawn M=E9ze
  86' Jetta GLi 8V   88' Corvette -AS- #30  2002 SDR Solo2 Champion
  Scirocco" 84' Scirocco 8V 82' Scirocco RIP 80' Scirocco S 79' "Project
  FSP
  The Fastest, Quickest, Cleanest and best looking Scirocco(s) in all of
  San Diego!
  http://www.Geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1308/index.htm


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I understand (and agree with) your =
points,=20
Shawn.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SO (phase two)...just how much =
stiffening does our=20
puny-little-7/8"-tubing-<EM>with-two-bends </EM>add to the mix?&nbsp; =
2%? 4%=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(I can flex my No-speed strut brace by =
hand, and=20
I'm no Arnold Schwartzeneggar....)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:skerocdriver@juno.com"; =
title=3Dskerocdriver@juno.com>Shawn c=20
  Meze</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:rocco16v@netzero.net"=20
  title=3Drocco16v@netzero.net>rocco16v@netzero.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
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  title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 26, =
2002 4:06=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: chassis =
re-enforcement=20
  v.101</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><BR><BR>On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 06:34:46 -0800 "L F" &lt;<A =

  href=3D"mailto:rocco16v@netzero.net";>rocco16v@netzero.net</A>&gt;=20
  writes:<BR>&gt; If the strut towers are weak, how does bracing one =
against the=20
  other <BR>&gt; accomplish much?&nbsp; Seems like all that would do is =
force=20
  the two <BR>&gt; towers to simply move in unison rather than=20
  independently?<BR><BR><BR>The strut towers arent weak so-to-say. They =
flex a=20
  little, which I think<BR>is normal as per the engineers. (Which is why =
some=20
  raced VW's tend to<BR>crack around the strut towers. I know of several =
that=20
  ended their racing<BR>this way.) <BR><BR>So, with this flexing that =
the strut=20
  towers do, the strut braces surely<BR>dont completely eliminate the =
flexing=20
  they do but they can do much to<BR>limit the flexing and thusly, =
improve=20
  handling and the longevidity of the<BR>chassis. <BR><BR>How they work =
is this;=20
  Only one strut tower will flex at any one time.<BR>Never both. So =
think of it=20
  as one strut tower leaning upon the other for<BR>added support via the =
strut=20
  brace. Make sense? A welded unit would do<BR>much more in terms of =
bracing but=20
  that limits certain necessary<BR>maintenance tasks. <BR><BR>BTW, ive =
seen them=20
  on MUCH older (US) cars than VW's and they were<BR>plane-jane street =
cars.=20
  <BR><BR>Dats dat.<BR><BR>Shawn M=E9ze<BR>86' Jetta GLi 8V&nbsp;&nbsp; =
88'=20
  Corvette -AS- #30&nbsp; 2002 SDR Solo2 Champion<BR>Scirocco" 84' =
Scirocco 8V=20
  82' Scirocco RIP 80' Scirocco S 79' "Project<BR>FSP<BR>The Fastest, =
Quickest,=20
  Cleanest and best looking Scirocco(s) in all of<BR>San Diego!<BR><A=20
  =
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___________________________________________<BR>Scirocco-l=20
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