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Can a fuel pump relay go in and out of limbo like that?
Relays are pretty simple, I would think it would just die... But I may be converting to the Euro CIS soon, so if it's my Jetronic box, that will solve it.

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> From: "S. Coleman" <deadbolt@mindspring.com>
> Date: 2002/12/18 Wed PM 11:43:32 EST
> To: "Scirocco List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Subject: Re: Re: Is this possible as my problem?
> 
> Here is my thought.  You are either losing spark or fuel.  Fuel pump relay would be my first thought.  Dizzy pick up (aka Hall sender) inside the dizzy would be my second guess.  Is there oil inside your dizzy cap?  Better yet,... is the black plug on the dizzy dangling around outside its little "slot"?  Last thought,.. which is what happened to my black 16v,... the fuel box(ecu) was crapping out once it got warm .... replaced it and never had the problem again.
> Let us know what else you find..


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here is my thought.&nbsp; You are either losing 
spark or fuel.&nbsp; Fuel pump relay would be my&nbsp;first thought.&nbsp; Dizzy 
pick up (aka Hall sender) inside the dizzy would be my second guess.&nbsp; Is 
there oil inside your dizzy cap?&nbsp; Better yet,... is the black plug on the 
dizzy dangling around outside its little "slot"?&nbsp; Last thought,.. which is 
what happened to my black 16v,... the fuel box(ecu) was crapping out once it got 
warm .... replaced it and never had the problem again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Let us know what else you find..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>'88 16v Rocco&nbsp; <BR>'78 8v Rocco<BR>'80 
Caddy<BR>'92 SLC<BR>'02 337 1.8T<BR></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=rhock99@epix.net href="mailto:rhock99@epix.net";>Ryan H</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=scirocco-l@scirocco.org 
  href="mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:07 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Re: Is this possible as my 
  problem?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Larry, did it work afterwords, though?&nbsp; Once I came to a 
  stop, she fired right back up and ran fine for a few minutes, then went back 
  into the usual limp-mode.<BR>As for the knock sensor, new knock sensor, 
  cleaned connections, swapped knock box from a different 16V... no 
  fixes.<BR>So, although it sounds like the knock system, everything there is 
  ok.&nbsp; The only thing I need to confirm is that if there was a problem with 
  fuel, would it pull timing, or just stutter/stall?<BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; From: 
  "L F" &lt;rocco16v@netzero.net&gt;<BR>&gt; Date: 2002/12/18 Wed PM 10:31:53 
  EST<BR>&gt; To: "Ryan H" &lt;rhock99@epix.net&gt;, <BR>&gt; 
  &lt;scirocco-l@scirocco.org&gt;<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: Is this possible as my 
  problem?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Fuel pump relay?&nbsp; This same thing happened to 
  the MkI the second day we had it.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Larry<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: Ryan H 
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sent: 
  Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:08 PM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: Is this 
  possible as my problem?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; My 16V, which 
  likes to run in limp-mode most of the time, took a real shit the other 
  night... It lost power while I was driving it like usual (feels like when you 
  switch on the AC, only much more abrupt).&nbsp; SO I downshifted and gave it 
  throttle... NOTHING, not even a noise. (Lights were still on as if engine was 
  NOT stalled.)&nbsp; Downshifted again, and it just stalled as I rolled to a 
  stop.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; So, could it be a fuel related problem - like 
  something clogging a line somewhere, then floating away (when power comes 
  back, or when I shut the car off).&nbsp; There is no stuttering to my car, the 
  timing just gets pulled.&nbsp; Would a fuel clog cause my timing to be pulled 
  - I thought it would just make the car stutter???<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  _______________________________________________<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Scirocco-l 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fuel pump relay?&nbsp; This same thing happened 
  to the MkI the second day we had it.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A title=rhock99@epix.net href="mailto:rhock99@epix.net";>Ryan H</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=scirocco-l@scirocco.org 
    href="mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:08 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Is this possible as my 
    problem?</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>My 16V, which likes to run in limp-mode most of the time, 
    took a real shit the other night... It lost power while I was driving it 
    like usual (feels like when you switch on the AC, only much more 
    abrupt).&nbsp; SO I downshifted and gave it throttle... NOTHING, not even a 
    noise. (Lights were still on as if engine was NOT stalled.)&nbsp; 
    Downshifted again, and it just stalled as I rolled to a stop.<BR>So, could 
    it be a fuel related problem - like something clogging a line somewhere, 
    then floating away (when power comes back, or when I shut the car 
    off).&nbsp; There is no stuttering to my car, the timing just gets 
    pulled.&nbsp; Would a fuel clog cause my timing to be pulled - I thought it 
    would just make the car 
    stutter???<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Scirocco-l 
    mailing list<BR><A 
    href="mailto:Scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>Scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A><BR><A 
    href="http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l";>http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>


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