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who's gonna be quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc



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Hey, Al, I hate to tell you...but those are not pictures of a car that =
is, in any way, even close to being in an oversteering condition......

Larry
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Allyn=20
  To: Josh Able ; Scott F. Williams ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 4:59 PM
  Subject: Re: who's gonna be quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc


  hey now, whats the matter with wide rear wheels???
  http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/d-cincy-2k%2B2/imagepages/image170.htm
  http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/d-cincy-2k%2B2/imagepages/image171.htm
  see? it still can wag its butt if i want it to :)
  (dont worry, josh, i got your back :)
  Al
  =20
  Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
  87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 180k, rocco #6)
  86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo Scirocco GTX ('it has begun', rocco #7)
  86.5 Occo 16v Trailer (dotting 'i's across the country, rocco #8)
  87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 rattles, original =
clutch, driveshafts, wheels :)

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Josh Able=20
    To: Scott F. Williams ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
    Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:50 PM
    Subject: Re: who's gonna be quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc


    >Well, with those bigger rear wheels your car isn't optimized for =
turns, either. And, I *know* you're not shying away from that!
    =20
    Im pretty sure I've already stated I would change my wheels if I =
ever take it out on LimeRock/etc, but for the driving I do the wheels =
are fine, its not like I built a car to be used as a race car.
    =20
    =20
    I like to have fun with my car, I have zero interest about dragging =
it that isn't fun to me. I don't need to prove Im faster, if I wanted =
that title I would have my car set up for whatever style racing I want =
to do. Instead I have it built for exactly what style driving I do want =
it for. :P
    =20
    =20
    Josh Able

    "If you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance." =
-Gil Atkinson=20

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Scott F. Williams=20
      To: Josh Able ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
      Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:31 PM
      Subject: RE: who's gonna be quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc


      Well, with those bigger rear wheels your car isn't optimized for =
turns, either. And, I *know* you're not shying away from that! Well =
regardless, what's wrong with your 1st gear? What spec transmission are =
you running? FYI, I'm expecting to launch in 2nd gear, myself. With =
those tree stump-pulling 4.25 ring & pinion gears my car should also be =
at a definite disadvantage at the strip.
      =20
      Just get out there to see what you can do regardlss of how =
competitive you are! There's always going to be somebody out there who =
can hand you your arse, right? I just ran my first drag race on Friday =
night (16.091 in the Subaru) and got spanked each and every time. Well, =
that's my perspective, anyway. Ish all good...
      =20
      P.S. Through my rally connections in Ireland I can bring in =
genuine VW Motorsports 16v gear sets. Maybe you need a taller 1st and =
2nd? Just say the word and I can arrange it for ya. (That offer is =
extended to anybody else, too.)
      --
      Scott F. Williams
      NJ Scirocco nut
      '99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
      Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" vehicle
      Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"
      ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers wanted."=20
        -----Original Message-----
        From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org =
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Josh Able
        Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:16 PM
        To: Scott F. Williams; UrGTI@aol.com; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
        Subject: Re: who's gonna be quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster =
Rocc


        wasn't built for drags, hell I don't have a 1st gear that is =
worth a hoot, all I use it for (and this is the way I like it) is to get =
to 2nd.
        =20
        any grandmother in a yugo can take me off the line.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey, Al, I hate to tell you...but those =
are not=20
pictures of a car that is, in any way, even close to being in an =
oversteering=20
condition......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net"=20
  title=3Damalventano1@comcast.net>Allyn</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com"=20
  title=3Dmkii@nycap.rr.com>Josh Able</A> ; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:sfwilliams@comcast.net"; =
title=3Dsfwilliams@comcast.net>Scott F.=20
  Williams</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org"=20
  title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 04, 2002 =
4:59=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: who's gonna be =
quicker?:=20
  Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hey now, whats the matter with wide =
rear=20
  wheels???</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/d-cincy-2k%2B2/imagepages/image17=
0.htm">http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/d-cincy-2k%2B2/imagepages/image170=
.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/d-cincy-2k%2B2/imagepages/image17=
1.htm">http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/d-cincy-2k%2B2/imagepages/image171=
.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>see? it still can wag its butt if i =
want it to=20
  :)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(dont worry, josh, i got your back=20
:)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Al</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN<BR>87 =
Rieger GTO=20
  Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 180k, rocco #6)<BR>86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo =

  Scirocco GTX ('it has begun', rocco #7)<BR>86.5 Occo 16v Trailer =
(dotting 'i's=20
  across the country, rocco #8)<BR>87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily =
driver,=20
  260k, 0 rattles, original clutch, driveshafts, wheels =
:)<BR></FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A href=3D"mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com"; title=3Dmkii@nycap.rr.com>Josh =
Able</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:sfwilliams@comcast.net"; =
title=3Dsfwilliams@comcast.net>Scott F.=20
    Williams</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org"=20
    title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 04, 2002 =
7:50=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: who's gonna be =
quicker?:=20
    Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2><STRONG>&gt;</STRONG><SPAN =
class=3D800551723-04082002><FONT=20
    color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>Well, with those bigger rear =
wheels your car=20
    isn't optimized for turns, either. And, I *know* you're not shying =
away from=20
    that!</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D800551723-04082002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D800551723-04082002>Im=20
    pretty sure I've already stated I would change my wheels if I ever =
take it=20
    out on LimeRock/etc, but for the driving I do the wheels are fine, =
its not=20
    like I built a car to be used as a race car.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D800551723-04082002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D800551723-04082002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D800551723-04082002>I=20
    like to have fun with my car, I have zero interest about dragging it =
that=20
    isn't fun to me. I don't need to prove Im faster, if I wanted that =
title I=20
    would have my car set up for whatever style racing I want to do. =
Instead I=20
    have it built for exactly what style driving I do want it for.=20
    :P</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D800551723-04082002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D800551723-04082002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Josh Able</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>"If you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well =
dance." -Gil=20
    Atkinson <BR></DIV>
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
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      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A href=3D"mailto:sfwilliams@comcast.net"; =
title=3Dsfwilliams@comcast.net>Scott=20
      F. Williams</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      href=3D"mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com"; title=3Dmkii@nycap.rr.com>Josh =
Able</A> ; <A=20
      href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org"=20
      title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 04, =
2002 7:31=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: who's gonna be =
quicker?:=20
      Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D800551723-04082002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
      size=3D2>Well, with those bigger rear wheels your car isn't =
optimized for=20
      turns, either. And, I *know* you're not shying away from that! =
Well=20
      regardless, what's wrong with your 1st gear? What spec =
transmission are=20
      you running?&nbsp;FYI, I'm expecting to launch in 2nd gear, =
myself. With=20
      those tree stump-pulling 4.25 ring &amp; pinion gears my car =
should also=20
      be at a definite disadvantage at the strip.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D800551723-04082002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
      size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D800551723-04082002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
      size=3D2>Just get out there to see what you can do regardlss of =
how=20
      competitive you are! There's always going to be somebody out there =
who can=20
      hand you your arse, right? I just ran my first drag race on Friday =
night=20
      (16.091 in the Subaru) and got spanked each and every time. Well, =
that's=20
      my perspective, anyway. Ish all good...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D800551723-04082002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
      size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D800551723-04082002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
      size=3D2>P.S. Through my rally connections in Ireland I can bring =
in genuine=20
      VW Motorsports 16v gear sets. Maybe you need a taller 1st and 2nd? =
Just=20
      say the word and I can arrange it for ya. (That offer is extended =
to=20
      anybody else, too.)<BR></FONT></SPAN><FONT size=3D2>--<BR>Scott F. =

      Williams<BR>NJ Scirocco nut<BR>'99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS<BR>Mazda =
323 GTX=20
      turbo "assaulted" vehicle<BR>Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"<BR>ClubVAC: =
"Roads=20
      found. Drivers wanted."</FONT> </DIV>
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        <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
        size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
        scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org=20
        [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Josh=20
        Able<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:16 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Scott=20
        F. Williams; UrGTI@aol.com; =
scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
        Re: who's gonna be quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster=20
        Rocc<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>wasn't built for drags, hell I don't =
have a=20
        1st gear that is worth a hoot, all I use it for (and this is the =
way I=20
        like it) is to get to 2nd.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
        <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>any grandmother in a yugo can take =
me off the=20
        =
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