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i checked everything, poped the distributor cap , it's dry. checked the =
control unit ( Jetronic box) for shorts per Bentley, it's OK. then i =
started troubleshooting the Ox sensor. It gets 12V, it gives out =
anywhere between .5-1.3V but when I unplug the green OX sensor wire, the =
engine doesn't sputter. can the Ox sensor be bad? it's still putting out =
voltage, it's heating element is good ( checked with ohmmeter).
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: calimus=20
  To: DEMETRIS RAPTIS ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 11:40 AM
  Subject: Re: 16V Engine sputtering after rain


  my car sputters like that everytime I start it for about 1 min, then =
the idle goes to about 2k, falls down to 4-5 hundred.  It repeats that a =
few times then levels out at 950.  I haven't been able to figure out =
what the hell is causing it yet.  Sometimes if I manage to give it some =
gas and keep the r's up around 1500 for about 40 seconds she will level =
out just fine after that.  When I first got the car I had similar =
problems when it rained, I found that the PO had put on the el-cheap-O =
autozone ditributor cap so I replaced it with a Bosh and haven't had =
rain problems since.  Let me know what ya find out cause it's pretty =
embarrasing when the car sputters like that when I fire it up while ppl =
are checking it out.

  William
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: DEMETRIS RAPTIS=20
    To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
    Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 11:07 PM
    Subject: 16V Engine sputtering after rain


    i got caught by heavy rain yesterday.Couple of hrs later i tried to =
start the car, it starts fine, 5-10 seconds later, the engines sputters, =
shakes , tried to give it throtle , nothing, but if i close the fuel =
enrichment switch, it idles OK. When the engine sputters , the DPR =
current goes to 0, the DPR measured 20 Ohms , it should be ok, idle =
stabilizer valve get voltage, hums.Transfer pump buzzes when turning =
key, main pump isn't loud.i pulled two injectors and they don't spray =
when cranking, i thought that was weird. The engine has the same sputter =
as it does when you unplug the jetronic box.It's still doing today, so =
if it was water that got somewhere, it should be dry. Anybody else had =
that happened to them?
    Demetri

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i checked everything, poped the =
distributor cap ,=20
it's dry. checked the control unit ( Jetronic box) for shorts per =
Bentley, it's=20
OK. then i started troubleshooting the Ox sensor. It gets 12V, it gives =
out=20
anywhere between .5-1.3V but when I unplug the green OX sensor wire, the =
engine=20
doesn't sputter. can the Ox sensor be bad? it's still putting out =
voltage, it's=20
heating element is good ( checked with ohmmeter).</FONT></DIV>
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sputtering after=20
  rain</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>my car sputters like that everytime I =
start it=20
  for about 1 min, then the idle goes to about 2k, falls down to 4-5=20
  hundred.&nbsp; It repeats that a few times then levels out at =
950.&nbsp; I=20
  haven't been able to figure out what the hell is causing it yet.&nbsp; =

  Sometimes if I manage to give it some gas and keep the r's up around =
1500 for=20
  about 40 seconds she will level out just fine after that.&nbsp; When I =
first=20
  got the car I had similar problems when it rained, I found that the PO =
had put=20
  on the el-cheap-O autozone ditributor cap so I replaced it with a Bosh =
and=20
  haven't had rain problems since.&nbsp; Let me know what ya find out =
cause it's=20
  pretty embarrasing when the car sputters like that when I fire it up =
while ppl=20
  are checking it out.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>William</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 03, =
2002 11:07=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> 16V Engine =
sputtering after=20
    rain</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i got caught by heavy rain =
yesterday.Couple of=20
    hrs later i tried to start the car, it starts fine, 5-10 seconds =
later, the=20
    engines sputters, shakes , tried to give it throtle , nothing, but =
if i=20
    close the fuel enrichment switch, it idles OK. When the engine =
sputters ,=20
    the DPR current goes to 0, the DPR measured 20 Ohms , it should be =
ok, idle=20
    stabilizer valve get voltage, hums.Transfer pump buzzes when turning =
key,=20
    main pump isn't loud.i pulled two injectors and they don't spray =
when=20
    cranking, i thought that was weird.&nbsp;The engine&nbsp;has the =
same=20
    sputter as it does&nbsp;when you unplug the jetronic box.It's still =
doing=20
    today, so if it was water that got somewhere, it should be =
dry.</FONT><FONT=20
    face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;Anybody else had that happened to =
them?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Demetri</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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