True, but what didn't help was that he kept it and a then new Mustang convertible in a car port (happy mice in there, too). Also the owner was on the road often enough that his cars had any miles on them. vwscir88@hotmail.com writes: << that seems to be a very common problem in cars that are only driven "part-time". >> Carl 77rocco 89fox Damn pollen, both of my cars are yellow now!