Was Racing Seats now Oval Track Racing

[Scirocco-Al" <scirocco-Al@insight.rr.com (Scirocco-Al)]

Yeah, but for oval track racing you have to set the car up to drift.  I
agree as my scirocco can out handle most anything I come across.  Except if
you are racing the car lap after lap on an oval you will have to get your
car set up to drift to make it go fast.  If you over cook it and hit the
brakes with that setup the car is going to get light in the ass and rotate
into the wall.  If you overcook the corner in the RWD drivecar it better
basic balance will give you larger window to catch the car and drive it out
of the slide.  The limits on the RWD might not be as high as the fwd but it
is lots easier to drive in that situation.  I can outrun 98% of the cars at
the Auto-x course and from experience I can tell you that if you go into a
corner too hot and hit the brakes or let off the gass the car will spin or
plow straight ahead.  The rwd has a better weight balance and gives you more
options in bad situations.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that RWD cars are easier to drive (tend to
slide) at the very limit (as in racing extremes) tha a FWD car as the FWD is
less forgiving (tend to spin)  due to its awkward weight balance.  The
limits of the car are another story.

Some rear wheel drive cars don't hadle badly either actually.  None of the
VW's could beat fiat X-19's, Mazda RX3's or even a Toyata Hotruck from the
70's when all these cars were classed in DSP together a few years ago.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason F. Snow" <jason_f_snow@nac.net>
To: "'Scirocco-Al'" <scirocco-Al@insight.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:37 AM
Subject: RE: Was Racing Seats now Oval Track Racing


> How is a RWD car going to handle a FWD car ? Ever see the Trac racing
> videos ? I mean I'm not talking jumping on the track with NASCARs (which
> aren't nearly street legal) or anything. I have flattened many-a-RWD
> cars in corners (on the road) tons of HP but no where near the handeling
> capability of a FWD...I am not one to spout out statistics and laws of
> gravity, I am simply not that knowledgeable...I can only speak of what I
> experienced myself.
>
> http://www.tracracing.com/movies/en/movies.html
>
> Street legal Mustang against street legal Scirocco in a cornering
> match...PAAAALEEEASE!
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Scirocco-Al
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:33 PM
> To: jason_f_snow@nac.net; 'Larry'; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: Was Racing Seats now Oval Track Racing
>
> Front wheel drive cars are not the best for oval track racing.
> Especially
> if you are going to have run with RWD cars on the track at the same
> time.
> The only way to get a FWD car to really handle is to make it tail happy,
> and
> thats not the best on an oval with hard walls.  If your running with RWD
> cars pn the track on the same time then their braking points are
> completey
> different that yours, best case it kills your lap time because you can't
> brake at the optimum point, worst case you unsettle the car trying to
> drive
> with them and find out about those hard walls.
>
> Auto-x is probably the better solution, though IT racing would give you
> way
> more seat time.
>
> Alan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason F. Snow" <jason_f_snow@nac.net>
> To: "'Larry'" <rocco16v@netzero.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:26 PM
> Subject: Was Racing Seats now Oval Track Racing
>
>
> > My goal isn't so much to be competitive...But to have fun doing it.
> What
> > about Autocross...Guess that's more realistic. Isn't anyone on the
> list
> > running an oval track with their cars?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry [mailto:rocco16v@netzero.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:50 PM
> > To: jason_f_snow@nac.net; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: Re: [RACING SEATS] Opinions
> >
> > Do not think for a minute that you can
> > A) be competitive in racing with a street-legal car.
> > B) count on driving a race car home after a night in the bullring.
> >
> > It's a nice dream, but that's all.
> >
> > larry  sandiego16V
> >
> > > I know that Recaros are supposed to be the best, but what about
> other
> > > brands, does anyone have any experience with the cheaper
> > > seats...V-Racing, Corbeau, etc. Also, I plan on driving the car on
> the
> > > street, but I would also like to do some oval track racing...Anyone
> > know
> > > a spot in New England to do this? And what would the requirements
> be?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jason F. Snow
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