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RE: the function of rear wings...



Considering the history and intent of the Reiger body kits, I doubt it.
Those kits were designed in his garage, and were made purely for looks.
Kamei and Zender both have racing in their history, so it seems reasonable
that they would go to such trouble.

Does that mean your Reiger kit doesn't reduce lift? No. It just means that
Mr. Reiger probably doesn't have wind tunnel numbers for you to prove it.

Neal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allyn [mailto:amalventano1@home.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:18 PM
> To: Neal Tovsen; Patrick Bureau; _Scirocco List; Marc scirocco Québec
> Subject: Re: the function of rear wings...
>
>
> Neal,
> i wonder what my rieger gto does to the aerodynamics. Anyone know
> if rieger
> does the same type pf testing?
> i do notice downforce at highway speeds, but then again, theres no sliding
> that tail at any speed.
> Al
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Tovsen" <sixteen.volt@verizon.net>
> To: "Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@home.com>; "_Scirocco List"
> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; "Marc scirocco Québec" <marc_scirocco@yahoo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:12 PM
> Subject: RE: the function of rear wings...
>
>
> I actually got the full instructions and pamphlets with my Kamei Mk1 rear
> hatch spoiler from Dirk. They actually did windtunnel tests and they list
> the reduction in lift at high speed, increased fuel mileage, etc! I only
> wish that I had a similar sheet for the Mk1 Kamei X-1 ground
> effects kit...
>
> Neal
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Patrick Bureau
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:27 PM
> > To: _Scirocco List; Marc scirocco Québec
> > Subject: RE: the function of rear wings...
> >
> >
> > Marc,
> >
> > Yes I was talking about high speeds, before I put on the Kamei X1
> > body kit and Zender Spoiler, the car was "jumpy" above 90MPH
> > (140KMH) now it runs smoothly, hugging the road at 90MPH, I have
> > pushed my little 85 8v up to 100MPH (160KPH) without fear, and a
> > few times, ran it to 110MPH (180KPH) on a long straight line with
> > fairly good stability (I am still ridding stock springs and shocks,
> > therefore once this gets changed and the car sits 1.25" lower than
> > it does now, this will have to be revised once again).
> >
> > So Yeah The right body Kit /Spoiler Combination DOES make a
> > difference, Especially that Kamei Air Dam. (very notable difference
> > even at speed of 70MPH (nose sits put on highway no "tipping" (up
> > and down movement) keeping the wheels on the road firmly planted
> > even at 70MPH(110KPH).
> >
> > Mark If you want Next Tuesday I can Take you for a spin, I took
> > Melany last Tuesday and she was impressed by the car handling
> > compared to get GTI on the road, not to mention how "spunky (her
> > word not mine)" engine.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > >
> > >  --- Patrick Bureau <pbureau@home.com> a écrit : >
> > > >
> > > > One of the reasons why I swap the big-lip spoiler on
> > > > my 85 to the
> > > > "GTX" also really know as the Zender Bi-Spoiler
> > > > rear wing... I have not seen any difference in
> > > > driving my car
> > > > around between the big lip and the Zender spoiler
> > > >
> > >
> > > You will have to really drive it hard and fast to
> > > notice something, not just drive around. :) At over
> > > 120-140 Kmh you will have more overall stability.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am sure that you get an equal benefit from the
> > > zender body kit, It probably is fully functionnal as
> > > well as good looking.
> > >
> > > Marc
> > > '83 Scirocco
> > > '88 Scirocco Slegato
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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